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Probably going to get a lot of hate, but you have no idea how many people I've fired for doing that. Request doesn't mean mandate. The request gets denied and still don't show up, well, then you didn't need the job in the first place, so I'll just go ahead and open your schedule up so you can look for a better job
A good manager plans ahead 🤷♂️
Spoken like someone who's never been management. You can prepare for everyone outcome you can think of, and there'll still be that one person to throw a wrench in the plans
I am management. You're full of shit.
Also have been management and have since started a new career. If your company can have any unfixable issue caused by a single (or even a half dozen) people, the systems you built are weak.
I AM GOING ALL CAPS TO MAKE SURE THIS IS HEARD ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK. IF ANY OF THE REQUESTS MADE WERE MADE WITH PTO, THEN THAT TIME OFF WAS EARNED AND YOU, AS THE MANAGER, CAN FUCK 1,000,000% ALL THE WAY OFF.
And if those without PTO, this “request doesn’t mean mandate” is one of those, “you’re not wrong, you just sound like a nightmare to work for” kind of manager.
Now, after I’ve sounded like an asshole, I’ll bridge the gap by saying if you need a certain number of staff for regulatory reasons (e.g. patient to staff ratios in healthcare) that’s one thing. Workers who abuse time off requests are another. Dependable workers who don’t abuse time off requests should have no problem getting that time off. You very well may sound like why entire staffs walk out at once.
The fact that the guy you said this to doesn't respond to this specific comment says volumes about how right you are and how much of an asshole he is.
Fucking facts.
How to abuse something you are not even paid for? It's like saying workers abuse not being workers any more.
Congratulations on being part of why your job sucked. I guarantee you outside of management no one liked you.
You should never assume
Found the shitty manager. Managers like this i ALWAYS treat like absolute shit while not breaking any rules. Every little mistake they make no matter how small i report to corporate. I make their life a living hell only because of their attitude. I've managed to get 1 fired and another i managed to completely change the way they act at work. Felt pretty fuckin nice.
A manager should really find how the person acts before messing with them. You never know if you get a person like me who gives ZERO fucks about anybody no matter your position.
Oh ok. So you go out of your way to mess with people and screw them over. That just makes you a shitty person in general
I go out of my way to make sure me and my employees are treated fairly. The employees i work with have families to feed and are scared to speak their mind. I don't have family so I step up and defend my coworkers from shitty managers like you.
TIL self-defense and defense of others makes somebody a "shitty person in general."
I think it's time for you to fuck off with your abusive attitude.
Haha. I share a statement, I get destroyed for it, and I have an abusive attitude. Your head must nice and cozy up your own ass
LOL, I'm not the one getting ratio'd. Maybe you should double-check where your head is!
Beats a shitty manager all day. Only one of those two buttheads holds sway over paychecks.
Lol, you really think they care what a shitty manager thinks of them?
Looks like he took your job of being an absolute dick
Given sufficient notice (like a couple days) there's rarely a reason to deny someone's time off request.
You're right, I hate this.
Thanks for your input
Illegal in San Francisco 🥰
If an employee gives 2 hours notice, they can't be punished.
That explains why there are so many engieneers in SF
The guy working at subway is a freakin "sandwich engineer" ugh
Makes sandwiches on scientific basis.
It's not a request. It's a polite reminder that your employees are people too with their own lives, and if you come between them and the people or things they care about, you get to find out real quick where you stand.
Try not to choke much more on that ego. I'm sure the constant turnover you're bragging about must be real good for the bottom line.
Yeah, and they probably could get a job the next day flipping burgers at a McDonald’s that you didn’t work as a day shift manager. It costs you a lot more money to hire a new employee than it costs them to get a new service/retail job.
If you use an out of office request like a mandate, just be ready to be fired. No surprises, no power trips. If you wager your time with someone who is literally a broker of your time + (Labor), be ready for them to call you on it. It's their job.
Same (in a previous career) and a few even bothered to ask for their job back not realizing I was the one who had to cover their shift
It was a low-paying company so I get it but the answer was still no
Congratulations on being part of why jobs suck so much
K
shakes head
I put on my robe and wizard hat