Fediverse @lemmy.world LastSprinkles @lemmy.world 1y ago

Is is possible to see who upvoted/downvoted a specific comment?

I read on reddit that on Lemmy you can see users' upvote/downvote history. I therefore expected to be able to see upvote/downvote breakdown by user for my own comments. But couldn't find this. Does this feature exist or is that a myth?

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Hmmm, tbh, I don't think that's a feature I'd want. Every now and again you see "that guy" furious that he's getting downvotes, doubling down and trying to start an argument or something. I don't need that guy showing up in my DMs.
- It actually already is a feature. Kbin puts it upfront, and I think lemmy also has a way to access it.
  
  I think it remains to be seen whether or not it’s a good idea.
  
  I’ve seen some people say they like the idea because it make people think twice about downvoting - it cuts back on the instinctive “I don’t like this so I am gonna downvote.”
  
  But, as you said, do we really want people coming after you because you downvoted them? There are crazy ass people out there, and if you ever get doxxed it could be a problem.
  
  Maybe that last point is hyperbole, but crazy people are gonna do crazy things.
  
  "karma" (as reddit calls scoring) never was more true to its name. :)
  
  I haven't looked at Lemmy's implementation of upvotes/downvotes, but they should be ActivityPub activities, so it means they should appear by making a request to the user's actor.
  
  EDIT: I've just checked random users outbox (that's the ActivityPub name for the list of activities), included mine, they are actually just empty. So that probably means that Lemmy is only publishing the upvotes/downvotes when pushing activities to federated servers, which would make those activities way more private, although not completely : someone could setup their own instance to learn about them, and it's best to be assume that at some point, someone will start such instance and publish an app revealing all votes for everybody (plus, as others mentioned, Kbin is already doing it).
- Yeah agree I am not sure that's a feature I'd want either tbh if it wasn't already there. But seems like it is in some form.
  
  Yeah, having it on your user page is much less dangerous, imo. Still a possibility of getting called out if you downvote someone you're arguing with, but you're already in the comments there.
  
  The only way I see a problem is if someone writes a bot or extension that reads the user profile into something "per comment", and if that gets enough traction and use to build up a strong database. However, in that case, I'd imagine the Lemmy devs would build a feature to let instance admins hide that information from regular users.
- It's possible now if you visit the same page through kbin.
- If you aren't willing to own your interactions with people, maybe you shouldn't be doing it? Why do you feel the need to hide? Thought processes like this are what leads to toxicity online. If you aren't willing to own your comments and votes, you shouldn't be allowed to interact with people in a community.
  
  We call people that want to be negative online while remaining anonymous a troll. Don't be a troll.
Oh, I know who upvotes me. It's the awesome people.

And the people who downvote me are the people that suck.
- Upvoting because I want to be an awesome person
  
  You were awesome before you upvoted!
  
  Me as well!
On Kbin, you can: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/329396/How-many-of-you-are-actually-chatbots/votes/down

link

On Lemmy, it's ~~available on the AP~~ available in the database, so an admin instance can get that, but I don't know of any client that offers the feature
- i don't think it's in the api. is in the DB, but not exposed anywhere. one instance admin could do query and see them.
  
  Ah, that might be it, I didn't remember exactly how it was working
  
  What are downvotes seen by kbin users on lemmy content? It could just be the kbin instance's local downvotes of the federated content but I never noticed a lack of down votes on lemmy-hosted content when I was running a personal kbin instance.
- Ahhh right so the information is there publicly available just not in the existing clients. Interesting.
- Is that info federated or just the count? Might still be trivial to get the info if it's the former.
  
  It's federated. Upvotes are just favorites in other platforms and they also show the user.
Don't get your feelings hurt by fake internet points, m'dude.
If that becomes a thing i will stop voting on posts and comments.
you can but preserve your sanity and stay away from it
Open any post on KBin. Click the url, and add /votes/down. those are the people who downvoted that post.

If the post is from Lemmy you can view "favourites" and "reduces" instead, just add /favourites or /reduces to the end of the url.

Enjoy :)
- So, https://lemmy.ca/post/3102921/reduces for this post? Doesn't seem to work?
  
  You have to open the post from KBin, and it seems /reduces is wrong; it must be /votes/down.
  
  Examples:
  
  Upvotes: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/329561/Is-is-possible-to-see-who-upvoted-downvoted-a-specific-comment/favourites
  
  Downvotes: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/329561/Is-is-possible-to-see-who-upvoted-downvoted-a-specific-comment/votes/down
  
  Boosts: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/329561/Is-is-possible-to-see-who-upvoted-downvoted-a-specific-comment/votes/up
- I see yeah indeed that works! Although it looks like it only shows a subset of all votes.
  
  You will only see local downvotes since, in general downvotes aren't federated. Only upvotes.
  
  More -> Activity
  Will also show the favorites and reduces for an ind post as well.
https://lemmy.world/post/1033769
If votes are federated somebody could theoretically make a fork of Lemmy that will show who voted, but that instance has to federate with all other instances
No. It is impossible to tell.
People keep mentioning the kbin trick but it seems to show only the downvoters that are on kbin?
- Upvotes are "favourites" on kbin.
  
  Yes, but I'm talking about downvotes. It seems like you'll only see those coming from kbin users.
  
  I thought that got fixed/changed very soon after the start of the migration?
Well over on Reddit let them know that’s on kbin.
Yes, it's possible via kbin.social.

kbin lets you see who voted for what https://lemmy.world/post/3027601

Open any post on KBin. Click the url (x comments) so that the title shows in the URL, and add /votes/down. Eg:

https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/329561/Is-is-possible-to-see-who-upvoted-downvoted-a-specific-comment/votes/down

https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/329396/How-many-of-you-are-actually-chatbots/votes/down

The link is also at the bottom of every thread.

For comments, click on "more -> activity".

The URLs are different so you can't just edit the URL, you have to find the post on kbin.social: https://lemmy.world/post/8552850 vs https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/643937

If a kbin.social user comments on the thread you can find it that way (their fediverse link).

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