'He's the guy who beat Trump': Rep. Dean on why she wants Biden to stay in race
'He's the guy who beat Trump': Rep. Dean on why she wants Biden to stay in race
Democratic Rep. Madeleine Dean is from the critical swing state of Pennsylvania. She hit the campaign trail with President Biden over the weekend and as other House Democrats are asking him to drop out of the race. Rep. Dean joined Geoff Bennett to discuss her support.
Democratic Rep. Madeleine Dean is from the critical swing state of Pennsylvania. She hit the campaign trail with President Biden over the weekend and as other House Democrats are asking him to drop out of the race. Rep. Dean joined Geoff Bennett to discuss her support.
He beat Trump
Yeah, in 2020, riding the "Anyone but Trump" wave. Woulda got smoked in 2016.
He probably would’ve done better than Hillary. He was pretty well liked in 2016. Between the memes and the momentum from the Obama administration, I think he may have won.
Now in 2024, "he's not Trump" and "he beat Trump" are the best reasons they can give to compel people to vote for him. That's nearly double the number of achievements compared to last time!
I wonder if Biden would have even won in the first place if Covid wasn't a thing right at the peak of election. Ignoring factors like that isn't going to help with your election projections. He beat him last time when a disease was everyones biggest concern. That's not the climate right now.
Speaking of which, why isn’t the Biden campaign beating the drum on how badly Trump bungled COVID
Another thing worth mentioning is that many states were operating under special emergency rules for absentee and early voting in 2020, whereas not all of them will be doing that now. Statistically I tend to think this hurts Biden this time around (2020 early voting broke significantly towards Biden in most areas) but it is difficult to project how much of a factor that will be.
Anyone living in a swing state just needs to go and vote for Biden. I know a lot of people don't want to, and, believe me, I get it, but you gotta just do it. It's like a chore you need to do that you really don't want to do, that you resent having to do, even, but that nonetheless has to be done. Just do it then take a nice, long hot shower after.
That being said, holy shit something has to be done. Clearly, just focusing on the presidential election every four years ain't gonna cut it. We have got to get more involved in the political process. We have got to vote in every local, state, and congressional election. We have to encourage better people to run for office. We have to do something. I don't know exactly what needs to be done to improve our democracy, but we gotta figure it out. We can't have another election cycle like the last several.
Indeed, folks need to get involved at the local level and primaries.
For those that complain about the first past the post voting, Alaska managed to pass ranked choice voting:
https://apnews.com/article/alaska-ranked-choice-voting-5ae6c163af2f8a70a8f90928267c4086
If you hate FPTP and the choices it gives you, don't just sit out the election, that's an inherent vote for the person you like the least. You can try to back a similar ranked choice measure in your state:
Yuuuup. If you have never called your senator or met with your representative, if you've never been to a city council meeting, then you are a part of the problem. This site is full of smart, hardworking, passionate people. We should be the ones in local offices.
The biden administration has been the best single term of my liftetime. I still suspect all this is more coming from republicans than anything else. Still its the very fact democrats are vulnerable to this type of disruption that is the reason I vote for them over republicans. Its ugly but its more honest.
If you ignore all the BS marketing, it really is amazing how much Biden has done in his first term, even more than Obama.
oh yeah. I like obama but he pretty much lost a term trying to work with folks who where not ever going to do so in good faith.
Let’s be clear, this is not a repeat of 2024.
Even if it was, Biden won by unprecedentedly narrow margins in key states.
In the intervening 3.5 years, Trump has shorn up gaps in his base, motivating them to turn up to vote; his scotus nominations have ran roughshod over democracy.
Meanwhile it took Biden’s administration 2.5 years to get nuclear secrets or whatever back from the insurrectionist traitor who still walks free, and for some inconceivable notion, is running against him for president; has pissed away votes trying to chase centrists, pissed away vote supporting genocide, and pissed away votes by being entirely out of touch on “the economy”- which we all know really means “rich people’s yacht money.”
I don’t care about him being old- I care about him being competent.
Is he a fuckton more competent than Trump? Absolutely. It’s the difference between a hammer and a rock, but we’re trying to rebuild and should probably get an air nailer. even so, it’s asininely stupid to force Biden out if he doesn’t want to go.
If his ego won’t let him bow out for the sake of Americans, he’s absolutely going to ruin any chance anyone else has, too.
In the intervening 3.5 years, Trump has shorn up gaps in his base, motivating them to turn up to vote; his scotus nominations have ran roughshod over democracy.
And massively lost. Let's not forget that 2022 was an absolute route for the Republican Party, as has been nearly every special election. Their antics are a complete self-own. Trump's dominance is anything but assured.
The public may have a short memory, but RvW is a dominant concern that the right will just not stop punching themselves in the balls with.
I just refuse to accept this gloom about Biden. Replace him and you lose the incumbent advantage and everyone is thrown into chaos and confusion and we go back to arguing about who the nominee should be like before the primaries instead of consolidating behind a single person. Harris is the only real logical replacement at this point and no one actually wants her. The only other names I've even heard are Newsome and Whitmer, who both lack national exposure because they haven't been campaigning.
Maybe Biden will pull off a loss here, but I think it's too late to unite behind anyone else.
And massively lost. Let’s not forget that 2022 was an absolute route for the Republican Party, as has been nearly every special election. Their antics are a complete self-own. Trump’s dominance is anything but assured.
Uhm. I wouldn't call gaining control of the house a "rout"... Just saying.
I just refuse to accept this gloom about Biden.
In 2020, Georgia was one by less than 12k votes. Arizona was won by 10.4k votes. Pennsylvania 80k votes. Wisconsin 20k votes. These are infinitesimally small leads. Trump only needed three of the four to get the requisite EC votes to win.
By the way, by "shoring up" his base... that includes fucked up shit like getting laws passed to make it easier for republican assholes to overturn the will of their citizens, and continued gerrymandering bullshit.
Do not turn a blind eye to just how unpopular biden really is, and it's not too late. The convention hasn't even happened yet. If Biden did the right thing and bowed out and supported whoever replaced him as the candidate, it would work. Remember- all the idiots screaming "Vote Blue No Matter Who"? yeah.... it goes both ways.
That said... he should not be forced out. Forcing him out is how you split the vote and hand Trump the win without even trying. Personally, I feel like Biden is holding the country hostage, but we won't get into that.
He's already got the incumbent advantage baked into his polling and he's losing badly. Nevermind that 3 of the last 7 incumbents lost. The incumbent advantage, if there is one for the presidency, doesn't seem to be particularly strong.
Good luck. You keep Biden and Trump is a shoo-in. Looots of people not voting if there’s no good candidates.
Support RCV in your city!
And pretty soon he's going to be known as the "Guy who lost to Trump." His legacy will be up there with Neville Chamberlain.