Over 2 million goddamn people?! i know they're "only" about 60-100k, but holy shit. Also 5 year wait, seems more like 10 years would be realistic for most people
The average new car runs around 47k. The cyber truck is 60k. There isnât a huge difference there.
The one I want is 80k. I latest have two cars. Both cost about 60k a piece. The truck can replace both of those.
Iâll decide when I hit my number. My main annoyance is the mileage isnât what they originally claimed. That was the appeal was a 500 mile range. The the sweet spot for my driving needs. Why I have two cars. Otherwise Iâd be all electric.
The reason I want 500 is the 280 or so I get is good most the time except when itâs very cold out. 500 would help during the summer and winter. When itâs super cold out I get Maybe 200 miles.
Yup and when I drive it's either nowhere or nearly 120 miles each way with next to no charging infrastructure in-between both points or at either end.
I could of course install a charger at my own house, but that only solves 1 end. 500 would be a comfortable buffer as the batteries inevitably degrade and for below freezing weather conditions.
You need a charger at your home. Otherwise theyâre just not practical. Superchargers eat the batteries. Slow charges take to long to use except overnight.
There are a lot of rural charges but theyâre low voltage. Can take hours if not days to charge your car
I donât know why youâre being downvoted. They have a large waitlist and are early in iteration on this product.
Iâd bet they have hardware recalls for the next 18 months that taper off as they ramp up. The amount of new engineering that went in the cybertruck is insane compared to any other vehicle in their lineup.
This is why you see all of the legacy automakers having problems making EVs, having tons of recalls, and pulling back. New technology is hard to mass produce until you work out all the kinks in the design and workflow.
I wouldnât by a CT because I donât like the aesthetics; but, if I did, I wouldnât buy one for at least 3 years from now. Same reason I wonât buy a Rivian R1S. They arenât at the point the recalls are down to manageable. Rivian may be good in another year or 2. The ford EV line⌠seems like them pulling back means they wonât have a decent EV track record for at least a decade, if theyâre still around then.
Most people on lemmy just want buzzwords, catch phrases and group think.
Most Tesla recalls are ota. The pedal is concerning because if it does get stuck, itâs hard to just turn the car off.
No, but we have a surprising amount of people who don't see too much of an issue with taking out a 72-84 month loan on an 80k truck. (that probably is over 100k with interest and fees)
Poor financial literacy, not really planning for the future, or thinking the reliability will make up for the extra cost. Either way, I suspect there's plenty of people like that around the world, just that we have less public transport so most people actually need a car to get around (although most people would be better with beaters or just a couple years old sedan).
I always match my loans to the warranty. That way I donât have a payment and repairs.
The problem for most people is car cost of went up and people want very expensive cars. Iâve seen people spend equivalent to their yearly income on a car
Yep. I recently got a newer car (a first for me, grew up on beaters and was fine until I drove a newish miata), and I remember when talking with credit union's officers that the new avg price for a lot of the loans they were seeing was around 50k, which just blew my cheapskate mind.
Cars just keep going up. I had a Nissan I bought new for 17k. Tax credits. Aggressive discounting. Etc. is was a 40k car. I still have it but my kid drives It.
I choked when I bought my first Tesla. It was around 60k. I had the money but Iâm just cheap on cars. They wear out and break. I donât drive much since I work from home. I do travel for work but I often fly.
My friend bought a 90k truck. Itâs insane.
I think two majors problems have to be solved for electric.
Cost
City charging - we need to make access available to condos, apartments, etc. it was going to cost 20k to add a charging station for my condo.
People complain about range but itâs not that bad.
More or less agree, pretty much predisposed to lightly used vehicles. While I'd argue that Teslas have a lot less maintenance than ice cars, the downside is I've heard that a lot is non-user serviceable, and any issues with the car are pretty hard to fix without going straight to Tesla. The drivetrain is supposed to last for ages though, so I suppose that is a definite plus. Evs have come a long way in the last couple of years, but the charging is still an issue, more than the range for a lot of people (myself included). I actually considered a Mini Cooper se which has a range of around 100 miles, but given I live in an apt the charging situation wasn't really feasible. Honestly, rather than having major charging stations on interstate routes, it would make soo much more sense for the government to incentivize a lot of higher density housing to adopt low cost lv2 chargers.
A lot less maintenance. Though they say tires go a lot faster but I havenât had any issues.
All the parts are easy to access on the Tesla from what I can tell. No idea how hard they are to swap out but since Tesla builds most of them, youâd have to get them through Tesla.
There are companies that are working to repair the parts. Like fixing a motor rather than a unit replacement.
Iâve had zero mechanical issues with mine. The paint is 100% garbage. They claim itâs California emission laws but I suspect itâs something else. Any rock strike and youâll lose paint. a car wash knocked off a large chunk. Tesla fixed it but it made me question the quality.
Apartments, condo, etc need access to a charger per unit. You need to be able to plugin on a regular basis. That is where Iâd like to see more government money. Tesla has the highways fairly well covered.