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Are web servers that serve real HTML responses still a thing? Honest question. I thought JSON+client side rendering were the default by now.
You're a couple years behind the SSR craze. We're back to what they were doing with PHP in the 00s except it's now done with Next, Nuxt etc.
Give it a year or two and we will be back to PHP. A lot of people are seeing the massive changes PHP has done and realizing it's just not as bad as it used to be. 7.x was a huge change, and 8.x is also doing great things. And so no one rages about my opinions, there's some sarcasm about "going back to PHP". Obviously the industry will stick to JS/TS for the most part.
PHP has been “not bad” for a decade. The problem is that it isn’t good and I can’t think of a reason to choose it for a new project when there are so many better, established languages.
I'd argue PHP didn't really "get good" until 7, but my own bias.
When will JQuery make its return?
Probably never because JS finally had a glow up and added/adapted the many features jQuery had and made it native.
Yaaay I love running node.js as my backend even though nobody thinks it's efficient
Yeah, PHP is extremely common and python frameworks like Flask and Django are getting more popular, but of course no where near PHP.
https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/pl-php
Just one huge example of a Django user is Instagram: https://engineering.fb.com/2023/08/15/developer-tools/immortal-objects-for-python-instagram-meta/
no where near PHP
Correct, Python is not nearly the clusterfuck that PHP is
Ah found the inexperienced developer
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I'll admit that it's been quite a while since I've touched PHP, but that was never my main focus.
Coming from C-like syntax, Python looks horrible to me. PHP has come a long way with 7 and 8.
I heard a lot of complaints about Python, but it's looks weren't any of them. It's the sexiest language out there.
Since I moved to python I wish all languages would just drop brackets, they're dirt.
I hear it a lot from almost all my engineer friends, so I guess it just depends on your field.
All the cool engineers use Python to get shit done soon, and C to get it done right.
I've got a C background as well, and I find Python o br considerably cleaner (and the code isn't 50% dollar signs).
Aw shit is it 2010 again?
While it's a new trend, it's not that new.
Yes. Much like https://xkcd.com/224/ the Internet is ostensibly all clever JavaScript frameworks, but actually leans heavily in out-of-sight places on big piles of plain old HTML.
Much like SQL, there's a million tools that will generate HTML, until we need a really specific output. Then we just cram the exact output we need into a text file and call it a day.