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In what way is the holocaust happening again? That’s a pretty strong claim.
Edit: This came across wrong. I did not mean to downplay the mass murdering that is happening in Gaza and other places in the world right now.
About 40k Palestinians have been killed by Israel so far. These people are stateless and not allowed to leave, have limited access to food and water, and have no hope of ever fighting back or escaping. That includes the innocent children who represent a huge fraction of the victims. It certainly draws parallels to the Holocaust, if nothing else, though the scale and motivations are different.
Good points.
That we know about. That made it to a place the bodies could be counted. Nobody has peeked into the rubble in most places yet.
Wow, 40k over the course of 10 months in a heavily populated area where 2 million people live?
It's almost like it's a fucking war and not a targeted extermination.
I would call it an extermination heavily obfuscated by layers of plausible deniability. Too many deliberate war crimes have been committed against civilians at this point to see it as good faith warfare against Hamas. Denial of food and water to the area are probably the worst offenses but there are many.
I am sure the holocaust was also a "pretty strong claim" during the actual holocaust.
Yea but you see, we can't stop this particular genocide because...
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a bigger genocide has happened in the past and you can only ever stop the worstest one. Or something.That's why Jan Karski toned down his report on the Holocaust; he was afraid people wouldn't believe the unimaginable horrors he saw. He was still met with skepticism.
Not really.
Everyone was really horrified when information on what was happening went public.
And there were little doubts on making what needed to be done to punish perpetrators and making Germany incapable of doing something like that again for years to come.
Shitty holocaust deniers were something that came later.
The holocaust was a specific event, not a category.
Yeah you can say that if you like, and you are probably correct in technical terms, but why does it that make it not possible to claim other genocides share a lot with the holocaust? Like the racism and rise in fascism and the legitimization of mass murder, etc... all the hunger and thirst and dying are akin to the holocaust. Being trapped in an open air prison is only slightly less worse than being in a concentration camp.
There's still those concentration camps in China that we've All just accepted as a normal part of life now
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Does China have the US government by the nuts? Does China get F-35s and 2000lb bombs funded by my tax dollars for their genocide? Is China a shining example of western democracy and values in their part of the world? Is it possible to be upset about more than one genocide at a time?
In the order of your questions:
-Yes, they absolutely do.
-Yes, not F-35's specifically, but how much shit have you bought that was made in China over the last few years? We are absolutely funding them.
-No, and neither is Israel.
-Apparently not for you dumbasses.
Is it possible to be upset about more than one genocide at a time?
Yes, now be upset and in arms about the Genocide in China. Go ahead. We are waiting.
Is the western world supporting China? I was unaware?.
We use their inhumane labor to cut cost here at home. Oops, it's OK, you must've forgot.
Simply stop buying Chinese products!
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Rather different from directly funding their war machine. And capitalism has never been a mechanism for expressing the moral desires of voters, has it?
What is your actual argument, because it sounds like:
"Nothing can be done so we shouldnt draw attention to it or even talk about it in Genocide related discussions."
Which, if I follow the leftist playbook, you are an advocate for genocide.
No. My argument is is twofold:
- that bringing up Uyghurs when discussing Gaza is whataboutism.
- it's also not a reasonable comparison given that US (and western, generally) leverage and culpability are completely different.
Except you didn't adress any of my arguments.
You responded to me in this specific thread
Dont bother arguing with these people. They get their history from tiktok and I'm not even sure they can read.