Yeah, they're not gonna do that. The GrapheneOS team thinks Google will give the 6 and 7 series 5 full years of OS upgrades instead of 3 OS + 2 security tho so fingers crossed.
I'd love it too with my 7a, but there's no way Google does something nice just 'cause. They've already sold the phones with a shorter support window and they gain nothing by releasing more updates for those devices.
Definitely great to hear. It's too bad they're not bringing new pixel software features to older devices though. It'd be a great way to differentiate their lineup from the iPhone.
Well, they did not partner with iFixit out of good faith: France's repairability score (which might serve as a template for a EU-wide version) incentivize OEMs to provide repair instructions and parts as it gets them a better score.
I have had to take my pixel 6 pro to the Ifixit like 6 times two times were my fault (broken screen) others were the phone just actually dying for no reason.
I haven't heard anything on that. It's really such an odd omission to not support USB-C Alt mode. It renders the Pixel devices incompatible with AR glasses.
Yea that was probably the only reason I would have upgraded from my 7 pro, and if it's not there, looks like the 8 series is a pass from me.
The fact that there is no mention of it anywhere when even the latest iPhones mentioned it seems like enough evidence, but I even contacted Google pixel support and they said the same thing, doesn't have it.
Update: There's actually a tweet up on [email protected] suggesting the hardware supports it but it's disabled in software. Should be able to enable if rooted.
The whole Fitbit subscription required for all the detailed health features is keeping me from seriously considering a Pixel Watch 2. I get health/fitness metrics with my Galaxy Watch without needing to subscribe to anything - same with Garmins and other watches.
Ditto. I'd rather pay once for the functionality when buying the device. I wouldn't even mind another one-time payment to unlock new functionality later - but a subscription? No thanks.
True, but I got 7 Pro last year and I'm happy with it therefore don't want to upgrade my perfectly fine phone especially considering its low trade-in value if I decide to trade it for an upgrade and receive the Watch2 as a free (!!) bonus. However, for someone actively looking to upgrade their phone, I think the bundle deal is absolutely great for them.
The same optical fingerprint reader it seems? That's literally the only improvement I wanted, so if it has an optical fingerprint reader that's a dealbreaker for me.
I see that Google is following the trend of limiting certain software features to the Pro model: Pro controls, Video Boost, Night Sight Video and multi-shot RAW. I hope Pro controls will eventually come to older models, either officially or with a modded APK.
I know right? The OnePlus 8T literally feels like the perfect size for me. But OnePlus themselves have abandoned this size, and in general 6.5" devices are not as common as they were a couple of years ago.
The 7 years of updates and that the software experience will be excellent, sold me to it. I don't even consider Samsung phones because I absolutely hate their software. I also don't consider buying an IPhone because I own an IPad and while not a terrible experience, it's worse than on my Pixel.
Pixel Watch was embarrassingly bad in health tracking compared to the Apple Watch SE. It's cheaper to get an Apple Watch SE + (discounted) iPhone than just a Pixel Watch.
And please get rid of the Fitbit subscription, Google.
Yup, I considered the pixel watch for my android phone but Garmin has an advantage over it in every category while having no subscription. I would have considered an apple watch if it were compatible with android.
I think the pixel watch is doomed to fail unless they can separate from the Fitbit model and continue to improve the hardware and software.
had no idea Google owned Fitbit. But looks like you don't miss out on many features by not subscribing to the Fitbit pro thing. Could be wrong. But Yea screw a Fitbit subscription.
do you trust that guy because he calls himself a scientist or because he has fancy graphs, maybe his accent? hmm… must be the lab dress shown for 5 seconds in the intro.
I saw both of his videos where he compares pixel watch and apple watch against polar h10 chest strap as a reference device, but somehow the reference device is ranked lower than apple device in his pixel watch ratings? How does that happen?
how does a reference device wind up being less accurate against the device you are testing against? I couldn't find him testing them against an actual medical equipment.
Google is shit at hardware and nobody wants a subscription for a watch but maybe, just maybe, this guy seems like a apple fanboy?
The guy doesn't reveal his data or the code he uses to plot the graphs, just 100s and 100s of affiliate links. How the hell people consider this scientific and why the fuck is it so popular?
Regarding comparing with actual scientific tests: https://youtu.be/7m_oBiYk8Rk he only does it for devices with significance, it seems.
It's not a perfect series of tests since the subject is only him, but he's clear about it and it's above and beyond what regular tech reviewers do, who gloss over spec sheets.
These are the kinds of reviews I personally value.
128gb at $1000 is a joke. I'm more or less done with high end phones. I won't use most of the high end features anyway. Bought a mid range Samsung last year with a micro SD card slot. Stuck a 512gb card in it. I am happy.
I grabbed a Pro for myself, a worthy upgrade from the 5, and getting a free Watch 2 with it is great. I love my OG pixel watch so that with better battery life is all I ask for.
It's not free, you are paying for it in the phone price. Phone prices are super inflated rn. People keep buying these $1k phones, so prices are slowly going up to see what they can get away with.
Okay, so at no extra cost to me I get a $700 phone (by your standards) and a $350 watch, both of which I use basically all day every day for any number of reasons that will last me 3 years like my current one. Sounds good to me.
So what price do you think the 8 Pro should sell at?
And what price do you think would be good for a 8 Pro and Pixel Watch bundle?
At some point the 8 Pro would be sold at MSRP and without the watch which would be the worst value. And you would have to wait a long while for the phone to drop in price the value of the watch.
Glad to see it finally being introduced in my country! Sadly they won't accept trade ins for the 7, which means I'll be passing on this until the 7 is EoL.
I would be excited except it's 2023 and Google has not made it available in my country (Indonesia), with the 4th biggest population in the world. This is a country where over 80 percent of the population uses Android phones. It seems Google is just not that serious in trying to sell us phones.
it has way brighter screen, longer lifespan, better haptics, better performance (which will help it stay usable for 7 years), and it still has partnership with ifixit so you can replace batteries by yourself