Because they don’t get listed by browse.feddit.de [http://browse.feddit.de]
you’ll want to browse https://kbin.social/magazines
[https://kbin.social/magazines] to browse “magazines”, which is what they call
communities e.g. [email protected] [/c/[email protected]]
or directly, h...
This "You Should Know" post is top of ~June, for good reason. This post announced the kbin.social Federation/compatibility with Lemmy.
A huge amount of test-posts from a wide-variety of instances came in to test the new federation abilities (including from kbin.social, one of the biggest kbin communities).
I think this post shows the hope that over the long-term, we can get federation across the larger fediverse. I don't know if Mastodon is in the works, but these kinds of posts give hope.
It was, and then it wasn't as the admin had to enable Cloudflare DDOS protection during the Reddit surge. This broke federation, but it's back off now and Kbin's back in the fold.
Yep it federated before the influx, and cloudflare was only temporarily in place until early last week when federation kicked in again. So this would be news to people who joined like Monday and haven't been here much.
Now that Sync for Reddit is being discontinued I'm dropping Reddit.
I saw a good write-up about kbin, so I signed up about a day ago and have been liking what I see - although it's obviously still in its early stages.
I don't know much about Lemmy and Federation, but is it a bit like the Newsgroups of old (Usenet), where you joined a Usenet service and any posts on any service propagated across all servers?
I don’t know much about Lemmy and Federation, but is it a bit like the Newsgroups of old (Usenet), where you joined a Usenet service and any posts on any service propagated across all servers?
Yes and no.
Usenet's communities / groups (alt.whatever) were unified. While communities on Fediverse are not. This means that [email protected] is a different set of posts than [email protected].
Like Usenet, the federation model means that individual servers can accept, or reject, other server's traffic. This means that posts aren't guaranteed to be global. (https://Lemmy.world and https://Beehaw.org are having a defederation spat right now, at least while moderation tools are being developed to fix the problems). This should be familiar to any old USENET user, though the younger #RedditBlackout group is extremely confused about federation.
Thanks for the clarification. I have another question I hope you can answer. Is it possible to be in an instance that has a federation with lemmy.world and beehaw.org? Even though they have been defederated with each other?
I hope my question makes sense...
Yeah, I'm seeing buggy behavior like that too on my end. Lemmy.world can't see all of kbin.social. But I'm seeing "enough" that we can somewhat communicate with each other.
Commenting from kbin; what makes it over to here seems pretty variable - sometimes I feel like the feed is all lemmy posts, other times lemmy might as well not exist.
Probably because I'm from a small instance and none of my fellow lemmings has discovered it yet. Though even for big instances, someone has to be the first. So how to discover magazines?
The UI I've found is still getting adjusted, but there's a subscribe button on mobile that's hidden behind the kbin logo and then the sidebar will open up and there's a subscribe button in there.
I'm mostly just browsing /all for now but streamlining the UI/UX looks like it's on the agenda to help new people find content
So life is a bit difficult since we're all on different servers, and each server will have its own bugs with federation. But all in all, we're able to communicate and try to work things out.
i'll have to circle back. i want to know too. i made an account yesterday because i really dislike how comments are displayed on lemmy. so far kbin is confusing to use, but i just started.
Can someone please ELI5 federation to me? I keep seeing threads and comments about this but I don't understand the concept. Does federation essentially just mean connecting all different instances and platforms across the fediverse which is how I can use kbin and see all the content here even if it's from Lemmy?
The fact that you and I are talking right now is called Federation. In fact, people over here at lemmy don't even know what a kbin (or magazine) is. They're called "communities" over here.
Federation is bilateral between servers. Whenever two servers interact with each other for the first time, a link is created between them. From then on they will inform each other about what is going on (unless they choose to break the connection). You post something in kbin, users can see it from Lemmy or Mastodon.
A federation is not an ideal metaphor, as federations tend to have a centralised authority. The fediverse is really a network of web sites that are all treated as equals, and all use the ActivityPub protocol. They need to find each other through user interaction: once they do, they are federated until either site chooses to "defederate" (as Beehaw famously decided with some servers).
The fediverse is this entire network of sites in the network: some have only created connections with a few other services, others are connected to the vast majority of services supporting the protocol. Over time, as users interact more, the network grows.
Question for all the fellow lemmy users on this thread - are you able to see kbin user microblogs through your lemmy instance? So far I can only see kbin posts/comments to magazines/communities.