Thank you Microsoft, for the final push
Thank you Microsoft, for the final push
I've been dual-booting Linux and Windows for a while, with Windows as the fall-back option in case I wanted to use Office for something. Now that they tried to trick me into paying a subscription for their AI slop machine, I'm finally, fully out. It was a pain to actually track down and back-up the stuff that was held for ransom in OneDrive, but now it is done.
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You should try OnlyOffice. It is very similar to MS Office and fully compatible with Microsoft formats. It has fully replaced MS Office for me for all office work. Also it can be easely integrated with your private NextCloud. You can install it from Flathub.
Edit: it also lets you edit and convert pdfs like Adobe Acrobat Pro
Is this better than LibreOffice?
PSA: OnlyOffice does/may have close ties to Russia:
I use LibreOffice for this very reason
I have a hard time making the connection that DMS is making.
OnlyOffice is a Russian company, so it naturally has "ties" to Russia.
They have not condemned their government for invading Ukraine, which can be for many reasons. Maybe they approve of it as DMS concludes. But maybe they don't want to get political at all (hell, look at what a single comment from Andy Yen has done to views of Proton). Maybe they don't want their government making life difficult for them. There could be a multitude of reasons they didn't say anything.
The way the statement is written is condemning for lack of evidence. Which is fine as an opinion. But that's all it is.
Don't get me wrong, I followed your link because I wanted to know and appreciate the heads up. If there's shady stuff then I'll avoid them. I have no ties to OnlyOffice for anything.
But being honest with the info doesn't support the DMS claim. I'm happy to be wrong if there's other information out there, but their biased statement makes me distrust DMS more than OnlyOffice.
I'll be sure not to pay them a dime, then, but the ope source version should be good enough to work with
Why not both? It's simple to install both and decide for yourself. I use both for different tasks.
People usually refer to LibreOffice, so it is interesting that this alternative I never heard of before is allegedly better (it looks better that is for sure)
LibreOffice is good alternative if you are not heavily dependant on unique MS Office features, especially Excel.
OnlyOffice is better if you're looking for MS Office document compability.
LibreOffice has more features and is overall better. OnlyOffice is more compatible with MS Office. So if you need to use docx etc. for work, you use OnlyOffice as a workaround.
But LibreOffice has supported docx for years now, right?
It has some weird formatting issues iirc.
It messes up object arrangement. This is technically Microsoft's fault, but that doesn't help when you want to communicate clearly with a MS Office user.
Isnt libreoffice for the .odt format? I read that .odt and docx arent compatible and I really dont want to convert my whole documents collection nor deal with broken/rearranged content when editing documents. I went with Onlyoffice but am only 80% satisfied with it
LibreOffice supports .odt and .doc and .docx and a ton of other formats though.
LibreOffice (and its predecessor OpenOffice) have been a solid FOSS and *nix alternative for like over two decades. So I’m a bit confused about what these other alternatives provide that LibreOffice lacks.
I think yes, especially for making presentations
I tried using it on several occasions, but it is extremely slow for me, with occasional visual glitches... I use Wayland, if it makes any difference. How's the OnlyOffice performance for you? Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
On Windows it is really sometimes slow for some reason, but on all my Linux devices it works well. Even on cheap laptop
I use Linux, and I have a 10 gen i7 with 32gb of ram. So it must be something with my setup ..
One of the organizations I work with uses Word docs with locked fields. How does only office do with that style of chestnut?
I've had to fill out a handful of documents with fields that I needed to fill in. They worked fully as expected in LibreOffice and OnlyOffice
Did you mean forms mode?
I'm not sure, I'm using documents produced by a larger org. The message I get if i try to edit the locked parts is:
The author has locked parts of this document. You can make changes only to the unlocked parts.
Btw i tried using Google docs on these Word files and the formatting broke in all kinds of terrible ways.
I know the idea here is to maintain consistent branding among the franchises. Anything sent back to the parent org needs to be in docx format, with no changes to the locked elements. If that can be done with a FOSS program, great! Local use has more leeway, but broken formatting is a nonstarter
Is there any samples to try and check if it works?
Someone comment on this reply so I can down this and try it on my way back from Sam's Club.
Bulk buying ftw
I love libre office for quite a bit of the same features.
Update in my previous message: so now I'm trying to install onlyoffice in a docker container on a server and I can't even get http to work, less even https. A simple connect to port 80 just gives me connection refused, even though netstat shows docker proxy listening there, port 443 gives me connection opened that right away closes, doing nothing. Logs show nothing
This is the sort of WTF that I really don't understand. Onlyoffice is really nice, why is the installation such a headache and fight after fight?
I've installed countless different services and programs in a myriad of different ways, and 99% of the time it's a few commands and done. 0.9% of the time I have tondo some significant extra work to get it completely done (nextcloud is here, not that it's hard but there are so many built in functionalities that you need to perform a number of extra steps) and then there is the 0.1% which is just a right nightmare for no good reason.
I have setup various dockers with little issue, onlyoffice just never works. WHY?
I would go for collabora if it wasn't s shitshow itself when used in an office setting with dozens of users. Colabora is nice for a single user system, that's it. I need perfect multi user document editing and onlyoffice offers this.
How do I set this crap up?
I used OnlyOffice via native .deb package. And yes it broke my apt every time and on every update. I managed by manually editing install scripts to make it work. I never used docker before but want give it a try (maybe podman instead). You can also write your problem and questions to [email protected] community, maybe they can help you
Let me preface this rant with that I think only office is the best online web based solution, I loved what it could do 8 years ago and I assume it's a lot better now.
I'm trying to setup nextcloud with only office, again. Nextcloud setup is a btrrze, only office always is and always has been a crime against humanity to setup correctly.
I've used only office successfully only once, some 8 years ago or so, in my own company. I've made some 10 attempts after that, over the various years, and I always failed. I have some 25 years of professional it experience and only office always eluded me.
Issues are either that I just can't get it installed and running at all, or that it's impossible to connect to next cloud.
Installing it with Deb files (or the installation script that does Deb files) is a very bad idea, that never works, the install crashes and usually leaves your server in a broken state, even after removing everything.
So now I am again trying to set it up using docker, so far with little result.
So having said all that: can you give some pointers on what you did to get it working?
The Nextcloud AIO docker container has Collabra installed by default, and the AIO is a joy to use compared to any other way I've installed Nextcloud.
Yeah, but collabora isn't a great option by itself. Only office install is a freak show at best, but once it's running it's awesome