Literally none of you really understand what you are mocking, and 95% of your 'knowledge' comes from memes and corporate news.
It is impossible to have a decent discussion with any of you, and I have been trying for YEARS.
Every circumstance is filled with 'gotcha' intellectual dishonesty parroted from whatever spike haired edgelad streamer you watched this week with ZERO of your own ideas in the mix.
HOW the FUCK can you hold a position that you can't even defend without devolving into strawmanning and meme repetition? It staggers me how casually all of you just slip into this comforting ignorance that is immune to any discourse.
To be clear, I am NOT a conservative evangelical and I probably hate them more than you do, but none of you will care because ALL theists are the same to you as those 'God hates fags' protesters.
Oh I fucking hate every one of you but I still hate conservative evangelicals worse.
At least most of you edgelad ratheists aren't trying to bring fascism to American.
This is what I like about lemmy. On Reddit you'd never see the crazy old man yelling at the clouds. Here he gets his own website, he gets to go on a power trip, he gets to rant, and we get to watch!
Saying a religion is sacred presupposed that the religion is true. So your claim that its wrong to mock a religion because its sacred is circular logic.
No religion is true, therefore cannot be sacred, and therefore is not above mockery.
I don't think you should believe in my God, I think you should find your own god and use your dedication to it to improve your life.
Hell I'm not even arguing whether any god exists or not, it's largely a pointless argument to be honest. I live as if the God of the Hebrew Bible exists, and it has improved my life and made me a more compassionate and open minded person. I know you don't believe that, because to you religion is the root of all evil, which is why I don't really like talking to your ilk.
I think you SHOULD believe in SOMETHING sacred, because such things are powerful. For example, I would like for the world to start believing that human life is sacred again, and that has inspired me to donate to charities that preserve human life like Doctors without Borders. I feel that taking any human life outside of immediate safety should be considered one of the most horrific acts a human can perform. When I think about how unfair it is for those who's lives are ruined or ended by the greed, ignorance, or anger of another, I strengthen the resolve within me to become more accepting of life imprisonment over execution of criminals. It causes me to want to support causes that prevent it, and to think of ways to convince others to agree and put aside their previously held beliefs about the acceptability of human death for those in the 'out group'.
There's no pathway to convince this world of fucking idiots through rational arguments or statistical evidence that such things should be true, and 40% of humanity absolutely needs the unassailable authority of a god lawgiver to keep them from doing ridiculously stupid things out of ignorance or maliciousness.
I'm sure you've mocked the whole 'Without God stopping you, why don't you rape?' meme just like every other atheist online but if the last 8 years of mass murders, encroaching fascism, and rising social anxiety hasn't convinced you that YES there ARE some people who need a god to tell them not to rape, then I don't know what to say.
You have a very strange idea of what an atheist is. An atheist is simply someone who doesn't believe in gods. That's the long and short of it.
...but if the last 8 years of mass murders, encroaching fascism, and rising social anxiety hasn't convinced you that YES there ARE some people who need a god to tell them not to rape, then I don't know what to say.
If you look at the kind of behaviour that is being justified with religion, then your good isn't very good at that, is he?
according to the bible, your faith has to be based on faith alone, rather than evidence. which means, there is no evidence. if there were evidence, your faith would be based on evidence instead of faith.
I know it's hard for you to contemplate but what if I told you that it really doesn't matter all that much in the grand scheme if He does or does not exist?
Statement: God does or does not exist independent of my belief or desire.
Conclusion: my belief is irrelevant to His actual existence or lack thereof.
Statement the Second: Since I have begun living as if He does exist, my life is more fulfilling and purposeful.
Conclusion the Second: Regardless of the existence or lack thereof of God, it is prudent to live as if He exists if your goal is greater life satisfaction.
You have a fucktonne of these arguments you've been rehearsing in your head for when you actually get the chance to dunk on a theist and I want to warn you right now that none of them will work on me because they have zero nuance and are formulated by talking heads for views and clicks instead of being rigorous arguments.
Your insistence on this cute little 'catch 22' shows that you may have an understanding of specific passages that you and your community have combed through to pick out for these 'gotchas', but you certainly have zero grasp of the actually meaningful parts about living a good life and supporting your community.
We call that 'legalism' in my church, and it's looked down upon.
Do you really think that IF God exists, He's going to be fooled by word play?
And IF He DOESN'T exist, why waste the time? I think it is because you like the attention.
oh, you just go around making up stories about the people you're talking about in your head? I didn't realize that's what we were doing here. have fun with that, I'm not interested
Oh, I don't really care about theism tbh, I just don't believe in it. I know some people find a lot of meaning, hope, and community in their beliefs and I have no interest in arguing that's wrong.