UPDATED 9-3: StarTrek.website - Lemmy info, FAQ, Patreon info, future plans, and more!
UPDATED 9-3: StarTrek.website - Lemmy info, FAQ, Patreon info, future plans, and more!
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Welcome to our new home in the Federationiverse. First of all- WOW we did not expect to surpass 300 users on this instance (and over 1K fediverse subscribers) within our first 48 hours and with little promotional effort. We are all excited to see where this long road goes.
Coming from Reddit and confused about Lemmy?
I had some stuff typed out, but honestly, this thread sums it up better. Check it out! It has infographics.
If you're still stressed out, remember that Lemmy is still new. Yes, it's ugly, but people said Reddit was ugly too (both are correct). As Lemmy grows, and #Rexxit continues, more tools will get made. Decentralization opens up a lot of possibilities we didn't have before. The future is bright.
Will other communities be setting up shop besides StarTrek, DaystromInstitute and Risa?
Yes! Eventually. Right now our focus is staying online, fast, and reliable which means keeping things focused while we find our footing. Daystrom, StarTrek and Risa were chosen to start off with because the three of them cover the "srs bsns ↔ shitposting" spread quite well.
If you are part of a community interested in being hosted on startrek.website, send me a DM and we can try to work something out.
Qapla'! How can I support?
We've started a Patreon here: Patreon.com/treksite. There's only one plan and it's just $4. If our growth continues like it has, we're going to need to upgrade our hosting very soon.
What's up with the "unencrypted DMs" warning?
I feel like I'm not seeing everything. What gives?
Lemmy is weird with languages. In your user settings, make sure “Language” is set to both “English” and “Undetermined”. You can select additional languages as well, but they aren’t currently allowed on this server. On desktop, you can use CTRL+click to select both options. This will allow you to see content for which the author has not set a language, and content which has been set to “English”.
This will hopefully be made more clear with future updates.
Thumbnails acting weird/not showing up (for users on another instance)?
Add this exception to your adblocker (replace "lemmy.world" with your instance):
@@||*/pictrs/*$domain=lemmy.world
Where can I find official server updates?
Follow us on Mastodon for updates, scheduled maintenance, etc.
Where can I talk with Trekkies about non-Trek stuff?
We've just opened a new "offtopic" community, welcome to [email protected], Quarks is fun!
If you have any questions for the team, please don't hesitate to ask in this thread! 🖖
Yes, I just have one question: was it a long road getting from there to here?
Yes it was, BUT OUR TIME IS FINALLY NEAR 🎶🎸
And now this tune is stuck in my head before bed lol
Fwiw, I am very happy to support the patreon but I don't feel great about it being attached to server perks. For some people $4/mo is nothing at all and for others it is genuinely significant. I don't want the Star Trek instance of all instances to be rewarding those who can afford to contribute financially.
That's a good point I hadn't considered, appreciate the insight. As long as we can pay the bills with what comes in, I suppose for now we'll just stick with what we've got.
Hooray, thank you! Fwiw, it is the donations model that is most common in FOSS projects (pay what/if you can) and I think it engenders a better sense of community, and I certainly feel more inclined to pay for something just so support it rather than because of any particular "perks" I might get, which are geeeenerally not really worth the money per se. I also would prefer your time to be spent on the actual server and not on having to integrate the various perks/linking accounts to patreon/etc etc.
Especially if it's international, 3 credits isn't the same for everywhere.
lwaxana_katana, great point. I agree with you. It's something I hadn't thought about until you mentioned it. I'd rather see time and energy go to making startrek.website more and more awesome, rather than have something that differentiates the can donate from the can't donate. Sometimes I have spare quatloos; sometimes I'm searching the couch cushion for quatloos. Startrek.website knows who donates. I think that's good enough.
Sorry for not doing your name correctly. I'm still learning and not yet at the how to direct a comment at a particular person part of my learning curve.
No problem! It automatically notifies users when you reply directly to their posts or comment. :)
Ooh how exciting! I can't wait to talk about everything Star Trek related - lightsabers, Death Stars, droids and more!
(Jk don't ban me lol)
*angry eye twitch*
I've joined the Patreon, but I won't be opening an account on the instance since I'll be following your communities from my own. Thanks so much!
Counselor, I am happy to read this... and yet I am crying. Perhaps my emotion chip is malfunctioning? (thank you so much🖖)
Hey! Just wanted to say thanks to the admins here. I was interested inblemmy but didn't know where to jump on until I saw the startrek server then I knew I was ready to move along home.
Alamarian!
That warms my cold android heart to hear. We set this place exactly for people like you who wanted a good jumping off point. Welcome!
I appreciate the effort. Your actions are directly related to me finally giving lemmy and the fediverse a shot. I offer my support (patreon and whatever) for however long I can.
Looking forward to exploring this strange new world.
That's great to hear! 🥲 Thank you.
Things are a little rocky now but we're all excited for this decentralized reddit-free future.
For the record, if you want to stay on top of discussion on the front page, make sure you sort by new. I'd argue that should probably be the default for now.
The sort should be fixed in the next version of lemmy
I’ve also joined the Patreon, appreciate the low flat-rate membership.
Hopefully, this place can get broad membership, enough to cover the storage etc.
Based on the first 48 hours, no reason not to dream big.
Thank you for pitching in! Yes we are very optimistic about the future. It's my hope that startrek.website can serve as a familiar face and bridge for new users discovering the Fediverse for the first time.
Decided to join the exodus and couldn't think of a better place to land.
Going to take a bit of time wrapping my head around Lemmy but can't support Reddit anymore.
Thanks to everyone who put the effort in to make this so.
Personally I think if you can customize the visuals, you guys should totally go for an LCARS style theme as that would be amazing. Maybe even get the exact typeface for it too.
Maybe there could be multiple, with a selection box
TNG LCARS
the ST 4/5/6 "LCARS"
default
etc
Tossed a few slips of GPL your way. I'll be staying on my current instance, but good Trek discussion is a must have.
A potentially stupid question so I apologise in advance. Am I right in thinking that this community is sitting on a Lemmy-based server, but it just has an unusual name rather than the typical xxxxx.lemmy/lemmy.xxxxx format?
I don't think the website name is that unusual, there are plenty of lemmy servers with names that don't contain the word "lemmy" like feddit.de, discuss.tchncs.de, beehaw.org or pawb.social.
You are correct. The server runs Linux, and Lemmy is software running on that server. The URL (startrek.website) points to the server's IP. There's no requirement for the URL to be called "Lemmy", that's just what a lot of people do. Also I don't think .Lemmy is an available option, though that would be cool.
Any chance for a ShittyDaystrom? I don't want to mod it (I'm a terrible mod) but I sure would love to shitpost there.
edit: seems like the only active mod on ShittyDaystrom on Reddit has ran a script to edit all their old comments, and Reddit suspended them for it. The sub on Reddit appears to be running fine with no mods. I think it would be a fine candidate for creating a community here, the people in the Reddit sub are happily shitposting Star Trek memes with no active mods at all. If someone who is not a terrible mod, like myself, would like to take it on, I seriously doubt it will be much work.
There are some huge fans of shittydaystrom on the team here, we'll definitely be hosting a community for that eventually. For the moment, we're worried about fracturing users by creating too many different communities.
If you have a shittydaystrom appropriate thing you want to post, stick it in /c/Risa. I'll upvote it.
Sounds good to me, I'll wait till you guys get it sorted out. Thanks a lot for doing this!
Congratulations on the move; here's hoping other communities follow suit.
I find installing an addon that redirects r/startrek to this website has been helping my pavlov response.
@Admin This is great!!!
Hi, I've just been reading about the case to defederate from fb/meta instances (https://startrek.website/post/289809?scrollToComments=true) and was wondering if the team was aware of the fedipact?
We're aware of the pact and will cross that bridge when (or if) it ever really happens. We're certainly no fans of Meta (or Reddit,or Twitter). So far it seems more likely to affect Mastodon than Lemmy/Kbin.
Thanks I will keep an eye out for updates. For this user federating with meta would feel like assimilating with the borg.
Really nice, thanks for making this.
Thank you for participating <3
Welcome to the Federation, r/starTrek!
I don't know if it's affecting other instances, but all images from startrek.website are denying referrals to image links from lemmy.sdf.org. In other words, all image posts show up as broken unless I open them in a new tab and refresh so the referrer becomes startrek.website. It's not affecting any of my other subbed instances, and when I open startrek.website it works fine, so I suppose something's breaking in the in-between?
It's a ublock/easylist issue. It seems to be blanket blocking xhr requests to certain TLDs including .website
Add this to your filters as a workaround for now (replace lemm.ee with your instance)
@@||*/pictrs/*$domain=lemm.eeOh! Thank you so much, that worked a treat. o7
Is there a list with instances you have blocked or are you currently federating with all other instances?
Edit: There is a list with all instances at the bottom of the site
Thank you for all your hard work, I am broke af right now but I will definitely contribute to a patreon once I get a steady income again!
This is a really cool moment to be involved in the future of social media, this community might be humble and small right now but it is part of the bleeding edge of the evolution of social media.
Was pretty skeptical about all this stuff, but it seems like y'all have succeeded in moving a good chunk of people from Reddit to this new place, which hopefully bodes well for the future.
Hopefully y'all will be able to keep moderation functioning well, especially considering that a lot of Folks'll stay split between here and the Reddit subs. Like the biggest reason (IMO, of course) that r/DaystromInstitute is/was one of the best subs out there was just how effective the moderators are/were.
The Daystrom people are cream of the crop. They also seem very dedicated to the idea of migrating their community out of reach from spez. I think we've all been surprised by the enthusiasm, especially considering how Lemmy is still very much beta software (but quickly evolving).
Awwww. Thanks guys!
I agree. Star Trek already over 4k and Daystrom rising quickly together with Risa both over 1k. That is an impressive number it has to be said. Well done.
Was pretty skeptical about all this stuff, but it seems like y’all have succeeded in moving a good chunk of people from Reddit to this new place, which hopefully bodes well for the future.
As long as there is enough people here to have a thriving discussion, we can be self-sustaining.
🖖
Ad Astra!
I can't seem to dm you for some reason (maybe because I'm registered on programming.dev?), but if you were interested I'd love to get startrekgifs running here with a clean start.
I saw most of TNG and all of Voyager and DS9 during their initial runs as a kid and to this day Voyager is still my favorite Trek series. It can be a little variable at times with guest writers, like the warp 10 thing, and the series finale manages to be one of the most anti-climactic of anything I’ve ever seen, but it had a real killer of an ensemble cast, a larger story, and a surprising amount of character development. And I know I already mentioned the cast but it’s hard not to love mama bear Janeway
My wife has always casually liked TOS but had never seen all of TNG or any of DS9 or VOY. We watched all of them together during lockdown. She liked them all, but Voyager was her favorite of the bunch, too
How much does a Lemmy instance cost to host?
That depends! You can run an instance on an old PC for just yourself and some friends for next to nothing, but a bigger instance with lots of traffic can easily climb to hundreds per month or more. No idea where we'll end up when things slow down, but the subreddits this server represent currently have more users than the entire Lemmy-verse 😅
Might help give an idea. Beehaw published their financials here
This is great, I subbed. I am trying to setup a server dedicated to motorcycling (r/motorcycles etc). Really like that we can setup specialty sites. Usenet 2.0
there's https://startrek.website/c/[email protected] on another instance, which you can interact with even from here!
Late response I am chatting with you via my own instance. moto.teamswollen.org
The "Federation of servers" is a great way to handle this. I am surprised how will it works even in it infancy.
Long live the Federation.
Really glad to find this place, looking forward to being part of the community,
Regarding donations though: Would you be able to share details on costs and how any Patreon money is spent?
Right now, 100% of it (and then some) is going into server costs, which are scaling up much faster than we anticipated (which is awesome, because it means there are more of you coming faster than we anticipated!). We aren't publishing details on that right now, but the plan in the medium to long term is to set up an official nonprofit and put out financial statements for anyone curious to check out. We have seen other Lemmy/Mastodon instances do the same thing.
I would be flabbergasted (in a good way!) if we somehow wound up sustainably pulling in more money than the site costs to run, but we will lay out a formal plan for that scenario which doesn't involve pocketing the excess for ourselves.
Hi! I have questions on how federation works on Lemmy. In Mastodon, if someone post something from an other instance, I can see it directly, if me or someone else from my own instance follow the poster. I thought it worked like that in Lemmy too, but I started following some communities in other instances, and I can't see all the new messages (for example, compare [email protected] and startrek.website/c/[email protected]; if you have the same problem as me, a lot of new messages will not appear, even if I subscribed a few days ago). Is it a problem from Lemmy, a decision from startrek.website, or a problem with my account precisely?
Thanks for your help!
I've noticed that too. I'm subscribed to a few communities that are still completely empty on this instance.
I'm new to these kinds of sites, but like to think I can navigate my way, haha. It's great and kind of refreshing that everything is so interconnected though and only need one sign in to view across content!
I've tried using Mastodon app and this other website called Beehaw. So, in my experience I can sub, but in order to see content from here I have to physically navigate through the communities > subscribed page.
I'm just going to be patient with it... it's propably just buggy because it's new. :P
I’m finding the same. There seems to have been and in some cases still is some kind of syncing issue.
There are even a few cases where I’ve subscribed to other communities on the same instance and content is loading through without difficulty.
For one instance, I unsubscribed and resubscribed after a couple of days and then started to see some posts and comments, but for others they are still empty even though I can see through browsing the Lemmy Community-Browser that there is activity from instances we are federated with.
I've seen a bit of drama in other Lemmy instances about various things and it's made me think startrek.website needs a very clear set of rules.
@[email protected] startrek.website is returning a 502 bad gateway error.
I am advocating hard for a good gateway. I think we deserve it.
Subbed and so glad to be here.
Spotted this from way over on mastodon.social! I knew the moment I spotted it, that I had to get on-board. Got the account, yaaay! Next up, Patreon.
Is there a way to get rid of the space on the left and right sides of the screen and make comments and posts cover the whole browser window like old Reddit does?
Go into your user settings and set the theme to "mintybubble"
It's completely ugly, but it is full-width. yes, it's in our future plans to have a better theme(s).
I don't think there is just yet.
Why "startrek.website"? When the ".social" and ".news" TLD exist and seem more fitting?
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It was one of the few that wasn't taken.
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It made us laugh.
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@loremipsum @Admin also, the copyright owners are a bit shitty regarding fan things, not sure how they will react to this domain.
Could you add more (all) languages in the settings for us to enable? I cannot see some posts because of this.
Yes it's on my list. Still finding out footing over here!
I see that you added English to the languages, finally I can see more posts. But could you also enable other languages? I cannot see most posts from communities on feddit.de, because they are all in German.
Is this instance currently taking new registrations? It might be good to get a PSA out…
I understand you’re running 17.4 so captcha can be used. My understanding was this was done because new signups are being allowed.
When I look at various aggregators of Lemmy instance information however, w keep seeing that startrek.website is closed to signup.
Take for example the information available through Lemmy - Fediverse Network Statistics posted on fedidb.org.
As there are a significant number of unhappy redditors just now who might wish to join Lemmy but are discouraged, it would be good to confirm.
I really appreciate the simple pathway that was offered for users on r/startrek back before the subs went dark June 12th. It was a successful migration for me mostly, but I understand that there’s a largish crowd of frustrated folks who haven’t made it through.
Registrations are technically restricted to be by application only, but the bar for a successful application is incredibly low.
Unfortunately, open registration led to a flood of bot accounts across the entire Lemmy network, so that's not a viable option.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
Unfortunately these aggregator pages, including the Lemmy Fediverse Observer create the impression that the site is closed completely vs. taking reasonable precautions to ensure verifiable signups.
How about a cool graphic / logo and some merch to promote the server?
Not a bad idea for the future!
General Lemmy question, and apologies if this isn’t the place. I found a community I want to subscribe to. [email protected]. Tried to search for it in various different ways, and kept getting no results. Used various formats and got nowhere. Eventually I navigated to startrek.website/c/[email protected] and found the community. I’ve now been able to subscribe to the community, but can’t see old posts.
Will I ever be able to? If I want to interact with older posts, am I SOL, or do I just need to be patient until older posts sync?
You will probably only see posts that were made after you subscribed to it. Lemmy only starts syncing with communities from other instances after they have at least one subscriber.
Just to add to the other response, if there's an older post you really want to reply to you can actually search for the post URL itself, and that'll pull it into your home instance. You won't get all the comments (unless you want to go through each one and search for their URLs as well but I'm guessing no), but you can reply to the post just fine.
How does a Star Trek virgin go about losing one's card? There must be a generally agreed order of approach to all the series and films by now. (The breadth and longevity of it has kept me wary.)
There actually isn’t a generally agreed order of approach, and many folks tend to assume what worked for them will be what’s best for others.
Most of the shows were designed to stand alone if need be, and can provide an entry point. They’ll fill you in on the essential lore along the way.
At this point, your own tolerances for 60s and 90s styles of television and visual effects might be a deciding point. If you want to jump right in with something new, Strange New Worlds is designed as the new live action entry to the franchise - but others have started recently with the animated comedy Lower Decks or the family show Prodigy.
There was a sidebar “Where do I start?” FAQ on the subreddit that listed options (release date; in-universe chronological; by personal preferences for serialization or not).
@[email protected] could you make that available here please?
We are looking into it - we don't have a wiki up and running just yet, but we'll see about getting it up somewhere ASAP.
alternatively start with Wrath of Khan
For some reason images and logos are now showing on chrome but still not on Firefox or Edge.
Something went wrong in the latest update, it'll be fixed soon. It's probably working in Chrome because the images are cached from before.
Is there an LCARS theme for Lemmy? I saw another instance running the Voyager theme and it got me thinking...
There's a Voyager theme? What instance? I'd love to add it here.
Lemmy.ca has it. It used to be called wefwef.
@[email protected] Welcome to the fediverse!
Thanks!
One issue I seem to run into quite a bit now is that if I try to access a community from another instance from this account I get 404 errors as example if I try to go to: https://startrek.website/c/[email protected]
I'm wondering If this is intended behaviour or something I might have done wrong?
For those wondering, Patreon is charging the equivalent of $US 4 in whatever the member’s currency happens to be, rounded to the nearest full unit.
For Canadians, that turns out to be $CDN 6 + HST.
I don’t think I’ve been charged HST on Patreon membership contributions previously.
It's charging GST for Australia also. I am happy to pay that, though, since otherwise it would be the proceeds of the Patreon having to pay all the various taxes, which is a bit cannibalistic.
EDIT: It ends up being just over $7 AUD if anyone is wondering.
Vat For UK - total comes to £4.20 a month
Lemmy seems nice, next we need an app
There is Jerboa for Android, Mlem for iOS, and an app similar to Apollo in the works.
More apps will be made. Until this recent reddit debacle, lemmy was an interesting fediverse software but while it had a stable community of users it really hadn't hit any major growth spikes that began to broaden its use.
Now lemmy will definitely be a target of a lot more app development since there are just so many more people using it!
I too searched for mlem, but it's beta/testflight so as a worthwhile compromise, I opened this up in my mobile safari and saved it as a shortcut to my app pages in iOS. It's really just the website in mobile safari, but it's good enough for me at the moment, until Apollo gets possibly re-written for Fediverse/ActivityPub traffic.
How do I load an avatar for myself? I've gone to Settings --> Avatar, clicked Upload Avatar and selected an image I saved. But then I get the error message, "SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data." I don't know what that means. I'm guessing that I'm violating the parameters of naming an image, and/or maybe the image's size or type? The image I was going to use is a .jpg. My only Fediverse account is this one, on startrek.website.
I've been unable to replicate this so far, even with a filenames containing unusual characters. Have you tried multiple pictures?
@[email protected] @[email protected]
RE: My not being able to upload an image for my avatar. It's not you, it's me. Specifically, it was my browser. I first tried using Firefox, which is the browser I've always used since signing up for startrek.website. Even though I thought I had fully allowed startrek.website on Firefox, I wondered if there was something under Firefox's hood that was the problem. What I love about Firefox can at times be problematic, what with the blocking of this, that, or the other.
So, I just tried again to add an avatar, this time using Chrome. I seldom use Chrome because it is a lot more loosey-goosey than Firefox about giving websites permissions. I was able to give myself an avatar when using Chrome to access startrek.website. I can see my avatar, and everyone else's on Firefox and Chrome. The why of the situation is far beyond my skill set to explain. I'm going with "it worked."
Thank you both for your prompt replies and suggestions. LLAP.
@[email protected] @[email protected]
I tried today, just before posting my comment. I tried changing the name of the image, at first the name had spaces and capital letters. I renamed the image without using caps or spaces, but it still didn't work. Below is a screenshot of the error message I got. I'll try using a different image.
https://i.imgur.com/YuTJkvO.jpg
edited to add: I just tried using different images and got the same error message.
We haven't been able to replicate this. Have tried this recently? Or is it an error from a few weeks ago? I ask because we had a brief issue that gave a similar error but has since been fixed.
Hi, this might be a silly question - no strike that, it's definitely a silly question but one I can't figure out: is there any way to change the default sort order of comments from "Hot"? Because I'm old, I'm used to a chrono ascending view and it would be nice not having to remember to change it every time I enter a new thread.
Thankew.
I realize I'm kind of a PITA with my idiosyncrasies, but I'd like you to consider a way of taking 'one and done' donations. I tend to avoid recurring automated subscriptions.
There might be others like me, and you could pickup a couple dollars here and there from one-offs.
I don't have a lemmy acct anywhere at this point, but I like what you're doing, and I spend time here, so I'd like to support you without making a commitment.
That's a great point! Also I'm very happy to hear we were your entry into the "threadiverse". We'll look into some options.
Any way to add LCARS themes or other Trek themes for the layout? I've been really wanting a TOS Movie themed layout on Reddit and other sites in general for the longest time.
It's in the list of things to add for sure. But if you're good at theming you can actually make a theme just for yourself.
Like the old MySpace?
Someone pointed out this persons LCARS css themes to me on another thread, they might at the very least be some good inspiration for someone who was interested and knew how to translate a theme like this to lemmy.
We need an LCARS theme for this site.
Hi! I've never used reddit and don't intend to, but does Lemmy work a bit like it.
The basic function is pretty similar - the way it's structured is a little more complicated, but that's the trade-off for independence.
Just FYI all the instance, and community logos are rendering as broken images.
We're aware thanks, something went wrong in the latest update, it'll be fixed soon.
Hey, I can’t figure out how to send @williams_482 a message without having an account here, so I’m just posting here. I'm trying to join startrek.website but my account keeps getting stuck in the spinning circle of death. Can you help me out? account name @yerald just like here.
Hey Yerald,
Someone signed up with that name on our instance on June 24, and Lemmy will not allow multiple accounts with the same name. This is two days after your kbin account was created; did you attempt to create an account on here then?
Oh, yeah, I did! I’d kinda forgotten about having tried a bit ago as well.
I hope r/sto will make the jump over here
What about kbin
I'm viewing this from kbin.social right now, so that's an option.
So cool that it works like that 🤩
Lemmy seemed like an easier transition, but I'm definitely keeping an eye on the development of both.
I'm trying to create a new post but it doesn't work. Whenever I click "create" there's just a loading icon (circle) and nothing happens anymore. Are there any requirements before someone can create a new post?
Happens a lot due to the big increase in users from reddit. In my experience, once you click reply, it gets sent even though it looks like it isn't. Refreshing the page should show it's there.
Wondering if there’s any progress on some of the other Trek-related subs being willing to migrate…?
While we may not have yet hit the critical mass to warrant the ‘Disco network’ of new show subs setting up, it would be great to have a Treklit sub (both books and comics) set up soon. Or one for gaming as that seems to be taking off again.
So far r/Trekbooks (or anyone TrekLit for that matter) hasn't reached out to us, but if you have a connect please shoot me a DM.
Regrettably, my recollection is that r/trekbooks didn’t even observe the blackout.
However, it looks like their traffic is down from the usual.
I could see there might be a larger proportion of book readers who might migrate here as they tend be fairly long haul fans who relied on the books post Nemesis.
Is it possible to create a new community? I can't find how.
Not yet, but hopefully some day.
