Israel, Hamas making headway in ceasefire talks

Talks are moving forward despite Israel's renewed offensive in Gaza.

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Hamas will never accept a ceasefire without full Israeli withdrawal, and Israel will never accept a ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power. There is no middle ground here acceptable to both sides. It's not going to happen until the situation substantially changes.
- You do understand a ceasefire is temporary? It's not an end. It's temporary peaceful time so the starving can be fed and the wounded cared for.
  
  I do, but in the few last rounds of talks Hamas has consistently demanded full Israeli withdrawal as a condition to release any hostages, and a permanent peace prior to releasing all hostages.
  
  Since Israel is obviously not going to agree to withdraw leaving Hamas to reassert full control, and further would never make a peace treaty with a terrorist organization holding their citizens hostage, I don't see any path forward here.
- You don't want a ceasefire?
  
  "This thing seems to be true."
  
  "Actually, this thing doesn't seem to be true, and here's why."
  
  "So you don't want this thing to be true, then??"
  
  Maybe now you can see how ridiculous you sound here.
  
  I didn't state any opinion at all. I only discussed what seems politically possible right now.
Whoever downvoted this, is it because you want the fighting to go on?
- No, you're just insufferable.
  
  so you admit to manipulating the voting system?
- Who need a chill pill brother.

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