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It’s honestly hilarious (in the fucked up shit way of course) that people are against this or making it $30, $50… who knows? What if, and let me assure you this is a CRAZY idea… but what if… workers received 100% of the value they produce and through a contract negotiated amongst their coworkers they can choose to scrape some of that 100% to reinvest in this company. Or would this be a cooperative of workers? Kinda like it is now. Actually EXACTLY like it is now. Except, there’s one or only a few people missing from the equation. Hmm. Ah yes, the investors/owners/executives. You know. The ones who PRODUCE FUCKING NOTHING YET SUCK ALL THE SURPLUS VALUE FROM THOSE WHO DO? Those people. Just yoink their stolen property and capital, give it to those who produce, and, like I said, I dunno, crazy ideas, let them figure it out. Or, more crazy ideas, perhaps some amount of the value is scraped “without consent” necessarily and goes into a giant pool of funds. Some massive reserve… perhaps headed by a federal agency of some sort. Hmm, who knows, maybe a federal reserve we could call it. And this centralized federal pool collector distributes the funds in a way as to invest… but it’s the workers investing in what benefits the workers, the vast majority of people in the country (or world) and not just little grifts and schemes to enrich those formerly capitalists who are now forcefully part of what they fear most… the proletariat.
I dunno, crazy fucking ideas though. Probably best to just remain completely atomized and cope by telling myself my boss stealing 9/10 of the value I create is fine because some other schlub gets 9.5/10 of his stolen and boy boy… man what an idiot! Glad I’m smart and aren’t being fucked over only a tiny amount less!
But of workers got there whole value, how could the dragons grow their hoard?
It's a nitpick, but we mean the class right? Gotha programme etc., workers as individuals need to contribute some value to the commons and society more broadly, sort of thing. But that's still the workers getting everything: First as an individual and second as a member of socialist society.
Yes workers at the class labor as the class, it does no good to anyone of we do not work as a class and as a society.
My argument though is if there is a Dictatorship of?the Prolitarate, then all of the government, socoeties resorces is the workers resources
It's crab in a bucket mentality to so many people that make slightly more than minimum wage. "Why should burger flippers make as much as EMTs?" "If they raise minimum wage they will just raise the cost of living so I'll be poor." I know someone like this. They only care about themselves and their own status.
Yes. It’s crab in a bucket but also crabs that have been told by some other crab on the outside of the bucket yelling in that he made it out of the bucket by killing 40 crabs and climbing their corpses to freedom. Of course he was actually born outside the bucket or his father-crab had already piled those dead crabs up for him… but the desperate crabs in the bucket don’t know this and many will think yow smart he was and how they’re smart and not stupid like the crabs they’re currently stomping on.
I really stomped the crab analogy into the ground… or sand?
The crabs in a bucket is meant to describe the mentality of the people not the actual situation. They may have been given the mentality by the capitalist but regardless it is always going to be the "crabs in a bucket mentality." That is the name of that particular kind of brain rot. It's the same with marvel brain, Harry Potter brain, etc. It's just putting a name to the kind of thinking. They all stem from the same source which we much work to destroy but the source doesn't change the disease.
I think the general stupid argument that people make is that it'll raise unemployment and inflation