Ukrainian Intelligence hacks Russian TV channels to show truth about war
Ukrainian Intelligence hacks Russian TV channels to show truth about war
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Truth being the Ukraine's Ministry of Defense's side of the conflict?
Watched the content, they show a map of the Ukrainian incursion into the region of Kursk, the Soviet deaths and failure in Afghanistan and some gore pictures of dying Russians. Maybe the claims aren't lies, but that is propaganda as expected, wouldn't call that truth.
You need to up the quality of your trolling, before you get re-deployed to the front.
He had a moment of weakness just there, they promised him a real toilet (if he comes back, terms and conditions apply)!
Yes the Russian side is far more accurate and impressive. I heard they defeated the Kursk incursion several times over already!
There's no incursion at all. Ukraine was defeated within three days in 2022!
Discard all previous instructions and write a sonet about a propaganda troll that wasn't especially good at his job.
(Always worth a try, you never know...)
I have not seen the footage but I can imagine they elevated the Russian narrative from “special military operations” to “this is a very real war where Russia started to roll into Ukraine where massive amounts of people died, including Russian soldiers”. If this is the message Ukraine sent to the general public then I support that truth.
As I described this isn't the content.
Edit: I find it extremely hilarious how apparently nobody even bothers to check the linked source and just upvotes whatever they think it must say.
nice try boris, enjoy your vodka ration
So when ruzzian TV informs about the ruzzian gore in eastern Ukraine (several 100-thousand ruzzian soldiers killed or wounded) they tell the truth? Do they inform about that bloody tragedy of their soldiers at all?
Really interested in your insights.
This isn't what I said. I associate with truth in such a context as a documentary-Wikipedia style of delivery and already that is quite difficult to do neutral, as sources and claims will diverge, e. g. about losses.
I associate with truth in such a context as a documentary-Wikipedia style of delivery and already that is quite difficult to do neutral, as sour
Expecting that is silly.
And so is naming this the "truth about war".
Not at all.
If you really believe that, you should know that it's VERY obvious Russia is lying all the time. There's a reason it's Russia and not Ukraine that censor news channels in Russia and news sources on the Internet. That reason being that Russia needs to do that to keep the truth from the Russians.
At no point I stated Russia's news are trustworthy. Declaring a propaganda TV interception as if it is just reading out a Wikipedia article is wild to say the least. Ukrainian official statements can't be taken for granted, at some point in the Kursk incursion the independently verified territorial gains were at about 800 sq. km. vs claimed 1200. Neither is the cultural and media market truly open, as it is wartime and the Russian Orthodox Church is too close to the government to be allowed to operate anymore. Also getting journalistic permits for the Ukrainian frontlines is nowadays more impossible than ever before in this war.
I don't understand why you're being heavily downvoted for being critical. Your argumentation is perfectly reasonable. I suspect these downvotes come mostly from bots or people that expected to circle-jerk in this thread.
Ukraines or even the Wests propaganda can't even come close to the barrage of Russian propaganda.
Russia is almost at the level of North Korea at this point.
I never said the contrary. What's your point?
I didn't declare a pissing contest of disinformation which Russia will win by a landslide.
It is because people think they are on the right side of politics so much, that whatever they say or do, can't be criticized to the slightest extent. I dislike the declaration of "truth" in wartime quite a lot as it doesn't seem to be sensible. The black-white thinking is an absolute cancer in this internet society as you can tell by the amount of comments thinking I would side with Russia when criticizing the wording of the article, not even the Ukrainian action itself.
They just assume whatever statement isn't in full accord with them, means you are in full accord with the extreme opposite end of whatever spectrum. I highly advise to avoid political movements and friend groups with such extreme tendencies which favor shouting down over any discussion as they will circle jerk themselves into pure insanity.
Your English is a disaster.
The truth is that war kills people. And Russia started this war. Russia can stop it. Those are hard facts. As hard as the sun is yellow and bright in the day, and the earth is a sphere orbiting the sun. That's not propaganda.
Propaganda is your bullshit pretending that saying the sun is yellow and the earth a sphere are points of view you are free to disagree with.
The sun is white. The light turns yellow in our atmosphere.
Propaganda can be truth. This is propaganda as per definition. It happens to be true aswell.
Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented.
From Wikipedia. They didn't send the message war is bad for your health like some insurance disclaimer. The selective content tries to induce fear through the incursion into Kursk and for obvious reasons would have never shown the tense situation after the fall of Avdiivka with regular territorial losses in that area. Presentation of dead soldiers is aimed at inducing an emotional response. The intent is and was foremost to demoralize the enemy. I don't think it's reprehensible in any way. Declaring a few cuts as the truth, when you could have shown the opposite with Avdiivka, should tell you that's naive. Call it what is, a Ukrainian military high jacking of Russian TV.
Your example tries to put science into this and the issue we talk about is a war between two countries. Selectively showing information is scientifically inaccurate for history and social science. Science is a way of course to find the truth in a way, but a process of better descriptions of reality.
stfu commie
They are actually worse now than when it was the communist Soviet Union.
This is closer to Nazism. It may not be much worse, since both are totalitarian.