ProleWiki
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ANNOUNCEMENT: The TankieJerkers have found out about ProleWiki.
"Literally just Conservapedia with red paint" -A Redditor
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We need your feedback on a new library feature
Hello, I'd like to take a moment to introduce myself and seek input from our community regarding a new feature we're considering implementing in the Prolewiki Library.
I’m the new Library Maintainer for Prolewiki. My responsibilities are to fix any incomplete library works, make the library easy to navigate, collect feedback and analyze how you all use it to make it better. Essentially, I'm here to ensure that the library functions smoothly and is user-friendly.
Lately at Prolewiki we have been exploring the idea of adding notes and introductions to the books, articles and other works in the library in the form of footnotes and an introduction paragraph. This serves a couple of purposes: firstly, it allows us to bring awareness to mistakes in the text, and secondly, it provides contextual information to deepen comprehension.
This is ONLY about adding notes and introductions, we would NOT be removing or changing anything from works we upload like the MIA Does! With that in mind we have some questions we would like to ask to get feedback from you about this feature.
QUESTIONS
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Do you believe that having footnotes/introductions for corrections and context would enhance the overall quality of content in our library and make it more trustworthy?
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Would you consider using Prolewiki more often for the same books and articles that you can also find on other websites if we provided helpful notes or introductions?
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Do you think they should be used solely for corrections and context, or should they also allow for opinions and interpretations?
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How concerned are you about potential abuse or misuse such as biased commentary or incorrect information? Would this possibility make you less likely to use our library?
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Are there any specific examples of books, articles, or works in the library that you believe would greatly benefit from this feature at this time? Please provide some examples.
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How do you think we could name the Prolewiki introduction paragraph to make it clear this is a ProleWiki addition?
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What additional suggestions or concerns do you have about the implementation of this feature in our library?
Thank you for your feedback comrades!!!
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Problematic wording
en.prolewiki.org World Economic ForumThe World Economic Forum (WEF) is an imperialist think-tank which acts as the meeting place for the global monopoly corporations and the ultra-rich members of the...
The term "cabal" is only used by reactionary anti-Semites. Please fix!
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Deprecation warning
When confirming an email, the following warning can be seen on the confirmation screen:
Deprecated: Use of User::getGroupsWithPermission was deprecated in MediaWiki 1.34. [Called from ConfirmAccount::getAdminsToNotify in /var/www/prole/extensions/ConfirmAccount/includes/backend/ConfirmAccount.class.php at line 329] in /var/www/prole/includes/debug/MWDebug.php on line 382
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How are library works added?
Is it by adding "Library:" into the title of a new article? Or is there some other specific way of categorizing it to make it appear in the library?
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Minor question: libgen links
I've been perusing the wiki looking for some sources, and I think I may even want to contribute to it in a month or so. But I noticed a lot of the book references include libgen links. While I think it's a great convenience, couldn't having it be so prominent eventually get the project in legal trouble?
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We have succesfully upgraded the server!
Thanks to all donators, mostly from Patreon and Liberapay, we managed to upgrade the server so we have more space to store the content produced in the wiki.
We have stored every fund we have in a Brazilian bank, away from the dollar, and because it's easier to manage given the current staff of administrators. Upgrading the server cost us in total R$1243.40 (~US$247.39). This includes taxes in international transactions (R$13.91 Brazilian international exchange fee + R$57.09 exploited by PayPal) and a US$49.50 service we requested so the disk could be extended. The VPS server itself cost us US$183.5 for a whole year.
After paying for the host, we now have available R$3342.46 (~US$664.48) in funds. There is currently no plan for this money, and we are just storing it so we can pay for hosting for more years. We reserved a part of this money (R$2500.00) in savings which have earned us an extra R$33.17 passively, which is a minimal, but safe investment, and still better than just letting the money alone.
Any suggestion on what to do with this money is welcome. Thank you all for making ProleWiki sustain itself for one more year!
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Wisconscom's Back Again...
cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/589515
> Under the name @Academicproletarian he sent me this message: > >Hey, comrade! I see you are an editor on ProleWiki, that's super great! > > > >Let's get down to brass-tacks. I'm the Chief Commissar of the Internal Security Group of ProleWiki. I myself have banned millions of people from our great echo-chamber. > > > >I've just been ordered personally by our great founder Forte to improve our page on Stalinism. It turns out that Stalinism, or more fully, Marxism—Leninism—Stalinism (MLS) really does exist as an ideology. > > > >As such, he wants us to rewrite our incorrect page on Stalinism to indicate that it really does exist. He also told me to use this excellently-written writing on MLS as a reference. This writing was made by a genius pioneer of Wisconsinite Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist theory. Thus it is a VERY good source. > > > >Thank you! > > It seems that they're going after ProleWiki again, (in this case attempting to have the "Stalinism" page "corrected."
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Thanks to @[email protected] for the tips, using bones was the best approach indeed
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Follow-up post about ProleWiki's book club
The first ProleWiki book club happened 12th February at 8PM UTC, and it was conceived and led by RedCustodian, with @CriticalResist helping set it up, and Clover helping with the reading.
It was a great success and signs that ProleWiki is starting to become an organic entity, because this is perhaps the first time that a major decision was made without my contribution to it, because I was not directly involved in the conceiving to the execution of the book club.
More than 2 years ago, when ProleWiki was merely 2 months old, I made some comments (some very idealist) on the direction of social ownership of ProleWiki: > We hope that in about a year or so, ProleWiki is able to exist without me individually and becomes a valuable resource to revolutionaries from all over the world, socially owned by all contributors.
It took way more than a year, but we finally have an expression of this goal, which is a somewhat big decision being taken without my contribution. I think this is pretty symbolic of the direction of our organization, which is slowly, but steadily growing.
Even though some big decisions are still directly in the hands of CriticalResist and myself, especially administrative ones, ProleWiki couldn't have maintained an unity among its editors without some level of democracy inside our server. Editorial decisions about the content of our wiki is no longer a decision solely made by the administration, and the administration promotes a culture of consultative democracy in most of the bigger decisions of our project.
As an important disclaimer, I should add that the administration does not hold up democratic values merely because we hold up an ideal and we are noble defenders of democratic centralism. Democratic centralism works, and it gives integrity to an organization. When decisions are discussed previously, sometimes exhaustively, the chances of disagreements are close to a minimal, and only in a free criticism environment can discussions happen until their exhaustion.
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Created page to put sources for editing
en.prolewiki.org ProleWiki:How to contribute/SourcesThis page contains a list of sources for writing about various subjects.
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ProleWiki has a Youtube Channel Now
As it turns out, the other day I was looking through recent edits on ProleWiki, and I found, under the social-media section of the ProleWiki page, I found a Youtube link.
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Possible Wisconsom Alt.
cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/497007
> User messaged me with a link to Wisconsom's website with some sort of plan regarding some sort of plan to overthrow ProleWiki.\ > The exact text is as such: > > From ComradeW > > > > Greetings, comrade. > > > > I see you’re an editor on ProleWiki, that is great! I am interested in ProleWiki myself. > > > > I found this interesting source of history for ProleWiki, and I also heard of this newly-formed group of ProleWiki editors looking to improve the project. Maybe this could help you become a better editor. Do you think it is accurate? > > > > Thanks you.
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InfraWiki is being raided
InfraWiki is a nazbol version of Wikipedia but it is being infiltrated to remove patsoc content. Anyone can create an account and edit with no verification. I have been banned but other ProleWiki users are active there right now.
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There is a comment from an mlm on here
antiopportunism.quora.com Essay: What even is “dengism?” https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Essay:What_even_is_%22dengism%22%3FEssay: What even is “dengism?” https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Essay:What_even_is_%22dengism%22%3F
What do you think of the response?
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Ideologies of the Cold War according to Wikipedia
кросс-пост из: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/455119
> It includes fascism, racism, and white supremacy as "other" instead of capitalist.
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Oh noooooooooooooo 🙀
Chrome lists prolewiki as a dangerous website... Lmao
No but is this anything to worry about that isn't google trying to avert us from radicalization?
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Wisconcom is back with a banger
This is a copy of what he sent to me after I wrote my "What even is 'Dengism'?" essay. Here's what he said lol:
I have read your essay on ProleWiki, "What even is "dengism"?", and I must say, it is absolutely repugnant, as are the other essays (or rather, screeds which are little more than dengist propaganda and pseudo-socialist nonsense) you have concoted on the revisionist hive that is ProleWiki.
The contents of your scribbles is, in short, nothing beyond citing a few examples of Deng Xiaoping's propaganda in which he allegedly affirms his socialist ideology. You totally omit the true aspects of his bourgeois ideology (even claiming quotes he is well-known to have said were "fake" and "made up by Maoists").
Yes, of course it would be the case that if you took this-or-that Deng quote, while removing everything else he said, you could misinform your readers that he is a socialist. Of course, this is both false and intellectually dishonest.
Deng Xiaoping omited class struggle in favor of the "development of the productive forces". To this day, the revisionist CPC keeps ill-informed revisionist propagandists such as yourself servile to their social-fascist ideological line by merely "kicking the can down the road" as to when they are going to become truly "socialist". Once the year 2049 arrives, the revisionists in China are simply going to move the target for "reaching socialism" to 2100, and then 2200, and so on. I believe comrade Enver Hoxha wisely noted this trend when he said:
> "In a demagogic way, Mao Tse-tung and the Communist Party of China have subordinated all their declarations about the construction of the socialist and communist society to their pragmatic policy. Thus, in the years of the so-called great leap forward, with the aim of throwing dust in the eyes of the masses, who, emerging from the revolution, aspired to socialism, they declared that within 2-3 five-year periods, they would pass directly over to communism. Later, however, in order to cover up their failures, they began to theorize that the construction and triumph of socialism would require ten thousand years."
Otherwise, you, in your essay, refuse to view things from a Marxist and dialectical view. You remove, among many other features, one of the most critical aspects of socialism: the removal of the bourgeoisie from economic power in favor of the proletariat.
Developing the productive forces is important, but it must be given lesser importance to class struggle, the creation of public ownership of the means of production, and so on.
Using your (very much poor) standards of "proof" for the ideological nature of these leaders, with which you use in this context to make Deng Xiaoping seem to be a Marxist, you could deceit others into viewing Adolf Hitler as a socialist. Your writing is nothing but propaganda to promote dengist ideology, an ideology which the rest of ProleWiki maintains with great zeal.
In the middle of your essay, you use the "cultural revolution" in China under Mao Zedong as a justification for Deng's coup and rise to power over the Gang of Four. However, you fail to account for the fact that, as comrade Hoxha once again correctly noted:
> "The course of events showed that the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution was neither a revolution, nor great, nor cultural, and in particular, not in the least proletarian. It was a palace Putsch on an all-China scale for the liquidation of a handful of reactionaries who had seized power."
It is correct Deng Xiaoping was merely following Mao Zedong Thought (albeit a extremely bourgeois interruption of it), however, it is the case that Mao Zedong Thought was, at its core, a revisionist and anti-Marxist ideology, with reactionary elements it attained from religion, among other sources.
Of all, it is your conclusion which is the most revisionary and false.
Not only do you imply that it is exclusively supporters of the capitalist state of China who constitute "legitimate" Marxist-Leninists, you effectively say that only Dengists (additional note, Stalinism does in fact exist) are real Marxist-Leninists.
Not only do you pollute Marxism via attempting to claim pseudo-socialists such as yourself are theoretically genuine, you are engaging in what is effectively dogmato-revisionism; the adoption of revisionism, and attempt to make said revisionism seem like truthful Marxism, and the rejection of all non-revisionists as being "revisionist".
While it is true that Marxist-Leninist-Maoists are revisionists, you attempting to claim that all Anti-revisionists are "revisionists" is nothing but a dogmatic attempt to defend your revisionism.
Regarding what dengism is, it is true that not all Marxists who support the People's Republic of China are dengist, rather, most of them are simply misinformed or have made a correctable ideological mistake. Rather, dengists are those "Marxists" who persist in this mistake, and defend it, which is what both you and the rest of the ProleWiki community is doing.
I wish to present to you a definition of what dengism is from a well-informed and wise Anti-revisionist who is a comrade of mine:
> "Dengism is a revisionist and pseudo-Marxist ideology which originated during the full restoration of capitalism in China in the late 1970s. With regards to its followers in this context, it refers to the “Communists” who maintain the view that state-capitalism is socialism, class struggle is trivial and secondary in comparison to the development of the productive forces, that maintaining the bourgeoisie in power is socialist, and that working towards a revolution in one’s own country is useless, and all effort of the Communists must be towards defending supposed “actually existing socialism.”
> Dengism is the ideology of counter-revolution, stagnation, and social-imperialism..."
We call you revisionists dengists not because we seek to vacuously attack you, but to separate Marxists from pseudo-Marxists like you.
It is groups such as ProleWiki, GenZedong, and others which have motivated me to cease calling myself a "Marxist-Leninist", and instead refer to myself as a "Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist". You people are giving outsiders to Marxism a bad view due to your crypto-capitalist ideology, your defense of revisionist and social-fascist state such as China, Vietnam, the DPRK, and so on. "Marxism-Leninism" has long since been hijacked and corrupted by revisionists starting with Trotsky and Khruschev, and presently with people such as yourself.
I hope you reconsider your views regarding dengist revisionism. Thank you and good day.
(I suggest you post this criticism on the talk page of your essay to give others an alternative view on this subject.)
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Am I supposed to get a confirmation email immediately after sending the account request to ProleWiki?
If I am, I haven't received anything, so I think I might have misspelled the email? I checked the spam folder but there's nothing there.
I'm sorry for giving you more work, I was pretty sleep deprived when I filled it out 😟
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Wisconcom has made edits on RationalWiki claiming we are "pro-CCP" propaganda
Most of the edits were made by Wisconcom himself. Observe how Wisconcom will pander to imperialist propaganda (claiming Tiananmen Square was an "atrocity" to "own the revisionists" 👌👌👌), and even call us "tankies" in the article.
This should illustrate Wisconcom's opportunism very clearly. He engages in chauvinistic propaganda just to portray a project he was banned from in a bad light, even if it means being anti-communist.
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Question about images
Why are PNG previews of SVGs on ProleWiki so pixelated?
https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Soviet_Union_(1956%E2%80%931991).svg
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Are my findings credible?
lemmygrad.ml Are my findings credible? - LemmygradHey everyone, you may know me as u/HAMSTERSRULE111 and its been along time since I have posted back at GenZedong and first time posting here, and during my absence I have become more anxious over my attempts to verify MSM claims about China, worried that my findings might not be credible, contain lo...
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Are my findings credible (Addendum)
lemmygrad.ml Are my findings credible (Addendum) - LemmygradPlease read the original post. https://lemmygrad.ml/post/376529 [https://lemmygrad.ml/post/376529] In anticipation of counterarguments from the Anti-PRC crowd, I am making this most to give my responses to potential objections to my findings. ---------------------------------------------------------...
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ProleWiki Lemmygrad session #1 — 2022 Q4
Comrades, we are presenting the first ProleWiki session to decide a focus of the editing work in ProleWiki
In the comments, please present the subject(s) you think ProleWiki should focus on, taking into consideration its relevance in the education of revolutionary theory and practice, or whatever other criteria you may find relevant.
This thread is not decisive, the subjects and themes suggested here will later be chosen by the editors themselves. However, we will take into consideration the most voted suggestions on our decision process, so the most requested themes will be likely chosen.
Try to stick to one comment per subject/theme, as it helps voting to be consistent, so if you want to comment on the suggestions, try to do so in the replies
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Jucheguevara has been removed from administrative positions
As of today (Sep. 27 2022), ProleWiki administrator Jucheguevara has been forcibly removed from his functions by unanimous decision, and subsequently banned from ProleWiki and all affiliated accounts and projects.
It had come to our attention that Jucheguevara was active in the Infrared community and asked them to create accounts under false pretenses on ProleWiki so as to covertly push their patriotic socialist/"MAGAcommunism" agenda on our pages.
Not only is this a petty attempt at sabotage, it also undermines our project and everything we have built thus far. Furthermore, as a fellow administrator, we never expected Jucheguevara would not only entertain the idea of going behind our backs, but actually follow through with it.
We regret that it had to come to this, but clearly he has made his friends and enemies known and we cannot trust him any longer.
The Infrared community has long been known to try and infiltrate projects so as to sabotage them from the inside. Unable to build their own movement, they would rather hijack others.
As of today also, anyone harbouring patsoc (specifically the USA kind) sentiments or sympathies will follow jucheguevara's example and be banned from our project.
The ProleWiki administration team.
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Is es.prolewiki.org stil active?
I applied for an account last Friday, but I don't know if I was accepted or rejected.
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Why were some default wikimedia templates deprecated or removed?
I'm specifically referring to Template:Date and Template:Cite web. I think they would be helpful.
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Thank you to people contributing to ProleWiki
I hope it's alright to post this here, I've just been wanting to say thank you to people working on ProleWiki. From people who are quickly creating many of the needed pages to people who are filling in stubs with more information and people making sure things are well-categorized, edit: and the people making translations!, I'm excited watching the project grow and appreciate the work people are putting into it.
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ProleWiki now has a Chinese site!
A big thanks to comrade Alice Margatroid for the work in translations and editing!
If you speak a language which is not included in ProleWiki and you wish to help add one, feel free to contact us anytime!
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ProleWiki now has a Russian version!
ru.prolewiki.org ПролеВикиПролеВики: Марксистско-ленинская пролетарская энциклопедия, построенная совместным трудом
I am very proud to announce that ProleWiki now has a Russian language version. Thanks to comrade Chayleaf for the effort in translating the site and adding content. Спасибо, товарищ Chayleaf!
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Updated origin of ProleWiki readers
Mostly a reflection of our Twitter. Our most active Twitter editor is from the United States, and so he tends to speak about Statesian trends, events, etc.
The fact that we achieved more users by doing that shows that it's an approach that's giving us more readers than doing nothing.
EDIT: This map is generated from data produced between 16 and 23 June