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Article Interop WG: How to represent titles?

cross-posted from: https://mitra.social/objects/018f5a57-6019-a5fb-f554-a1b86be0a9e3

> Article Interop WG: How to represent titles? > > Should title be inserted into Article.content as an <h1> tag, or should it go to Article.name? > > !article\[email protected]

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Mobilizon v/s Nextcloud (v/s other?) for a network of people event calendar
  • its funny you are saying that right now I was just reading about how many fediverse projects are there, I am sure we could get it packaged up for Yunohost if that was a stopper for you...

  • Mobilizon v/s Nextcloud (v/s other?) for a network of people event calendar
  • its very different. I would recommend signing up to instances of both and playing around with them to get a hang of it. I really don't like the design of mobilizon I think they made a lot of confusing decisions

  • Mike Macgirvin recounts the depressing history behind Mastodon's rendering of `article` vs `note`

    > Here's the reason Article became a second class citizen...

    > https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/5022

    > In this issue I raised against Mastodon in 2017 (on a now defunct github account), Mastodon at the time treated Note and Article identically. In particular, it removed all the HTML except for 'a' tags - even from Article. This made federation with the elephant impossible for us. At this time the ActivityPub fediverse consisted of Hubzilla and Mastodon. Period. The specification wasn't even final yet. Hubzilla provides long-form multi-media content, just like a blog. This content was completely destroyed by Mastodon's HTML sanitizer, especially blockquotes, which displayed everything we quoted as original text and mis-attributed.

    > My proposal to the Mastodon team (which was basically Eugen) was to relax the input sanitisation on the Article type a bit , and Mastodon could have their plaintext Note and we could have our multi-media and the fediverse be one happy family. Regardless of the fact that HTML is specified as the default content-type for all content in ActivityPub.

    > The response from Eugen was to turn Article into a link, meaning our content wouldn't be shown inline at all - and closing the issue. I believe this is the last time I ever communicated with Eugen and I will never, ever file another issue against Mastodon.

    > We started using Note instead, so that our messages would federate at all and knowing that Article would have been the most sensible choice.

    > We also need to strip all the images out of our perfectly renderable content and add them back in as attachments - otherwise they won't be displayed on Mastodon. As it turns out, Mastodon only adds back 4 images and reverses the order. This is less than satisfactory because the source content lets us position text around each image, and it forces anybody with multi-media content to not only perform this unnecessary step, but also to check every attachment on import and see if it was already included in the HTML - or it will be displayed twice.

    > As far as I'm concerned, Mastodon should be taken to the mountain-top and cast into the volcano. But it appears we're stuck with the infernal thing.

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    Mobilizon v/s Nextcloud (v/s other?) for a network of people event calendar
  • I would recommend Gancio instead of Mobilizon to be honest. Its also fediverse event software but designed quite different. You can see a pretty active server of it here https://bcn.convoca.la

  • Fediverse Article Interop Working Group

    cross-posted from: https://mediaformat.org/wordress-activitypub/article-working-group/

    > 📣 This is a callout proposing a working group to improve Article interop in Mastodon, and across fediverse servers & apps > > 📣 This is a callout proposing a working group to improve Article interop in Mastodon, and across fediverse servers & apps > > Follow @article\[email protected] to join the discussion > > 🔃 Share for reach cc: @[email protected] > > \#Article #ActivityPub #Wordpress #Plume #WriteFreely #Known > > \#activitypub #Article #Known #Plume #wordpress #WriteFreely

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    Heise Online - Auch Ghost wird komplett ans Fediverse angebunden
    www.heise.de Blogging-Plattform: Auch Ghost wird komplett ans Fediverse angebunden

    Das Fediverse wächst weiter: Über das zugrundeliegende Protokoll ActivityPub soll in diesem Jahr auch die Blogging- und Newsletter-Plattform Ghost föderieren.

    Blogging-Plattform: Auch Ghost wird komplett ans Fediverse angebunden

    > Das Fediverse wächst weiter: Über das zugrundeliegende Protokoll ActivityPub soll in diesem Jahr auch die Blogging- und Newsletter-Plattform Ghost föderieren.

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    Building ActivityPub
  • Thanks for the prompt! I am trying to talk more publicly about all this fediverse internet hubub thats swirling in my head lately. There is a massive seachange here that feels possible for maybe the first time in my adult life and I think it will only get there if we all really push for the fediverse to become what we desire in the world.

  • Newsletter platform Ghost adopts ActivityPub to ‘bring back the open web’
  • Ghost itself is one of the bigger winners in the oops-Substack-has-Nazis newsletter migration, and letting authors on its platform more easily distribute their work is itself in stark contrast to Substack, which is reacting to its failing business model by making it harder to leave its own increasingly-social-network-like platform.

    a synopses of this Verge piece by the autotldr bot Lemmy bot

  • Newsletter platform Ghost adopts ActivityPub to ‘bring back the open web’
  • I ran across this exchange with Ghost CEO John O'Nolan on the Product Hunt announcement:

    Levelsio:

    Wow great work, do you think payments will start to also go this way with Ghost in the future? As ActivityPub is decentralized, maybe having some decentralized type payments fit into the future

    John O'Nolan replied:

    yeah! I think crypto is actually starting to get interesting for the first time now, because most people are no longer interested in it. Generally that signals the end of the hype phase and the beginning of practical utility - so I’m very interested in exploring how decentralised payments could work in Ghost in the future. There are all kinds of interesting and legitimate and interesting usecases which Stripe (mostly Visa/Mastercard) refuse to support

  • We Distribute - Ghost Announces ActivityPub Integration
    wedistribute.org Substack Competitor Ghost Announces ActivityPub Integration

    Ghost, a major publishing platform, follows in the footsteps of WordPress. Both platforms may be able to follow each other soon.

    Substack Competitor Ghost Announces ActivityPub Integration

    > Today, open source publishing platform Ghost announced that it will soon join the Fediverse with ActivityPub integration baked-in to its feature suite. The announcement includes a handy explanation of what ActivityPub is, the benefits that provides to publishers on Ghost, and a deep dive into where these features will be found in the near future

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    Building ActivityPub
  • Well the part that excites me is that Ghost is one of the biggest newer CMS's started after Wordpress. Ghost is also open source so at least the work they do can be reused into the future (unlike say Threads or Flipboard) and we will suddenly have the ability of a lot of large parts of the web to be able to switch on federation without much effort. Look at all these large entities that use Ghost. Everytime one of these big players joins the fediverse there is this overflow effect onto little community players who might have chosen to use Ghost or WordPress or Flarum etc a long time ago and suddenly without the individual sites having to do much they can grow a whole new audience. So in short, I don't use Ghost and am not personally super excited by the project, but I am excited to see who it ends up bringing in!

  • Building ActivityPub
  • Ghost was originally just for blogging, but they recently decided to take on Substack directly so now they do both. I think Buttondown originally came out of Mailchip being shitty and then they were also taking on Substack so I think this move is that if they team up together and also with the fediverse they have a shot at directly competing with Substack (in the VC minded way I assume)

  • "we’re starting work to look into the possibility of adding ActivityPub support to Ghost" says Ghost CEO
    forum.ghost.org Federate over ActivityPub

    This idea has been at the top of the list for a long time, so this week we’re starting work to look into the possibility of adding ActivityPub support to Ghost. Because there are lots of different potential ways this could be built, the team is curious to hear more detail about how you imagine this...

    Federate over ActivityPub

    "This idea has been at the top of the list for a long time, so this week we’re starting work to look into the possibility of adding ActivityPub support to Ghost. Because there are lots of different potential ways this could be built, the team is curious to hear more detail about how you imagine this working… If you have a moment spare, could you fill out this 2-minute, 3 question survey to tell us what you’d like to see?" posted by John O’Nolan, CEO and Founder of Ghost

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    Last Week in Fediverse – ep 65
  • This is just such an action packed post @[email protected], thanks for the mention!

  • Composite Groups with Azorius
  • Do you know what it's called?

  • Composite Groups with Azorius

    cross-posted from: https://azorius.net/g/azorius/p/G44w3jl9Rv76x4Q3bk-meta-groups >I've implemented basic support for composite groups (groups of groups). (Formerly named meta groups.) There's a lot of redundancy because of the federated nature of the azoriverse, with similar groups duplicated across multiple servers. Composite groups are a solution, by presenting users with a (somewhat transparent) single group that collects all of the posts. > > I've created two groups, metaprog and technoscience, for demo and testing. > > This is still preliminary, so federation doesn't quite work yet, but eventually the goal would be that you can follow a composite group, and it will forward activities. Instead of having to individually chase down every new programming group that gets created, you could delegate that the metaprog admin (me) to keep the group list updated. > > Some basic federation is now working. I think it probably won't work from Lemmy, ironically, but azorius, honk and mastodon, etc. should be able to follow these groups. (Don't follow from azorius until after updating.)

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    Evan Prodromou - Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes
  • ah thanks for this. So lemmy is doing something wonky then with how they auto complete tags in a description field and then are not actually doing what one would expect with that... Can you tag an account in the description of a post in https://azorius.net?

  • Evan Prodromou - Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes
  • it works fine in Photon, so it seems like its just a lemmy web front end issue. I didn't realize till I looked in this other client that it worked

  • The free Delta game emulator for iPhones is live on Apple’s App Store
  • Any recomendations for ROMs to try? I just installed it but I don't really know the world of ROMs

  • Evan Prodromou - Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes
  • still have no idea what you are trying to say...

  • Evan Prodromou - Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes
  • what Fedi language from Mastodon are you referring to?

  • Evan Prodromou - Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes
  • oh weird I just looked at it from https://phtn.app and I see it is indeed a tag. it doesn't show at clickable from the web view... I guess I need to spend more time understanding how the different front ends actually work

  • Evan Prodromou - Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes
  • hmm can you not tag a fedi account in a post description?

  • Evan Prodromou - Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes
    evanp.me Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes

    Bytedance yesterday launched a social app called Tiktok Notes in Canada and Australia. I tried it out, since I live in Canada. I was able to log in using my Tiktok account to log in. The user inter…

    Bytedance: Add ActivityPub to Tiktok Notes

    The grandfather of the fediverse @[email protected] wants TikTok Notes to join the fediverse

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    Press coverage of the Fediverse @lemmy.world wakest @lemmy.ml
    The Verge: President Biden is now posting into the fediverse
    www.theverge.com President Biden is now posting into the fediverse

    Biden’s Threads posts can show up in Mastodon clients.

    President Biden is now posting into the fediverse
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    TechCrunch - Bluesky and Mastodon users are having a fight that could shape the next generation of social media
    techcrunch.com Bluesky and Mastodon users are having a fight that could shape the next generation of social media | TechCrunch

    As decentralized social networks become more popular, the way different protocols interact could set the stage for the future of the web.

    Bluesky and Mastodon users are having a fight that could shape the next generation of social media | TechCrunch

    As decentralized social networks become more popular, the way different protocols interact could set the stage for the future of the web.

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    Press coverage of the Fediverse @lemmy.world wakest @lemmy.ml
    TechCrunch: Bluesky CEO confronts content moderation in the fediverse
    techcrunch.com Bluesky CEO confronts content moderation in the fediverse | TechCrunch

    The panel on stage at the Knight Foundation's Informed event is Elon Musk's nightmare blunt rotation: Techdirt editor Mike Masnick, Twitter's former

    Bluesky CEO confronts content moderation in the fediverse | TechCrunch

    The panel on stage at the Knight Foundation’s Informed event is Elon Musk’s nightmare blunt rotation: Techdirt editor Mike Masnick, Twitter’s former safety lead Yoel Roth, and Bluesky CEO Jay Graber, who have come together to discuss content moderation in the fediverse.

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    Press coverage of the Fediverse @lemmy.world wakest @lemmy.ml
    ithome.com.tw coverage of Flipboard joining the fediverse (in Chinese)
    www.ithome.com.tw Flipboard後端將全面改用ActivityPub

    擁抱聯邦宇宙(Fediverse)生態系的雜誌社交網站Flipboard,要讓整個系統後端支援熱門聯邦宇宙標準ActivityPub

    Flipboard後端將全面改用ActivityPub
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    Press coverage of the Fediverse @lemmy.world wakest @lemmy.ml
    As Twitter destroys its brand by renaming itself X, Mastodon user numbers are again soaring | TechCrunch (2023)
    techcrunch.com As Twitter destroys its brand by renaming itself X, Mastodon user numbers are again soaring | TechCrunch

    As Twitter ditches its iconic branding in favor of owner Elon Musk's favorite letter "X," its open source competitor Mastodon is once again seeing usage numbers soar.

    As Twitter destroys its brand by renaming itself X, Mastodon user numbers are again soaring | TechCrunch
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    Jack (of Twitter fame) is asking about Lemmy

    you can respond directly from mastodon to his post by searching this link

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    Preview version of Lemming App is now available

    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/528149

    > Hello everyone! > > For the last two weeks, I have been working on an Android app for Lemmy as a side project. It's called Lemming and has now reached a state where I want to make it publicly available. The app is not yet available on the Play Store, so if you want to install it, you can download the APK file from Google Drive. > > Here are some key features that Lemming has right now: > - Support for multiple accounts > - Swipe to vote for posts and comments > - Navigate comments with the volume buttons > - Long press on a comment to collapse it > - Write posts and comments with a text editor that supports text styling and a preview > - Long press on post image thumbnail to see the full image > - UI is optimized for phones, tablets, and foldables > > Some screenshots to give you a better idea: > > ! > ! > ! > ! > > What's next? > > I plan to release a beta version of Lemming on Google Play next week, to make installing and updating the app easier. > Then I will focus on adding missing features like supporting links, displaying user profiles, personal messages, search and community sidebars. I also want to add customization options and improve the accessibility of the app. Lot’s to do :) > Of course all of this depends on the feedback I get from the community and what is most important to the users. So don’t hesitate to give feedback and tell me what features you would like to see next!

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    Wikipedia @lemmy.ml wakest @lemmy.ml
    Can you help translate the Wikipedia article about Lemmy into your own language?

    cross-posted from: https://social.wake.st/users/liaizon/statuses/110594401261474756

    > Can you help translate the Wikipedia article about Lemmy into your own language? > > Currently it's only in 4 languages, so there's a lot of translation to be done! > > \#English > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy\_(software) > > \#German / #Deutsch > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy\_(Software) > > \#Ukrainian / #українська > https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy\_(програмне\_забезпечення) > > \#Basque / #Euskara > https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy\_(softwarea)

    (UPDATE, its now at 12!):

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    Mastodon <> Lemmy Interoperability

    cross-posted from: https://news.cosocial.ca/post/2263

    > I did a bunch of experiments today and ... thoroughly confused myself, so I wrote down a bunch of things and took screenshots. > > Here's what I learned: > > (I have more protocol info but ultimately this is the lived experience of working across different software systems, federation, and the actual client / front end web experiences that people interact through) > > ## Paste Lemmy URLs > > Various things "just work" by pasting URLs into the Mastodon web interface or the Mastodon mobile app. > > !Screenshot of Mastodon Web UI posting in a Lemmy URL > > Posting the link to this post https://lemmy.ca/post/606549 finds this post > > ! > > Clicking on the user profile shows me a profile for [email protected], with one post displayed. Including a follow button > > Only one post is shown, because that's all that's available on the local server right now. If I chose to follow Doctor_Pi's Lemmy account, I'd get all of their posts going forward. Both OPs (which has a link to the post on Lemmy.ca) as well as comments (which appear as replies). > > ### Limited support on other clients > > Other clients (Ivory on iOS) have extremely variable support. You can't usually paste in Lemmy URLs, but you can paste in Lemmy accounts and follow them, and then see posts going forward. > > Please leave a comment of what does / doesn't work in your particular client. > > ## Follow Lemmy users on Mastodon > > Every Lemmy user can be followed on Mastodon. So, for example, my Lemmy account @[email protected]. Paste that into the web interface of Mastodon or into the Mastodon native mobile app and you will find my Lemmy profile and can follow it. > > ## Reply to a Lemmy post from Mastodon > > If you reply to a Lemmy post using your Mastodon account, your reply will be posted as a comment. A user profile is created on the Lemmy instance. > > I just did that with this very post, and it seems to have worked. > > !Screenshot of Boris' CoSocial Mastodon profile, viewed here > > This is my [email protected] Mastodon account, viewed through news.cosocial.ca as a local user profile. All of that info -- including the images -- are from my Mastodon profile. > > The comment is technically originally on Lemmy.ca. > > ## Create new OP post from Mastodon > > You can create new OP posts directly from Mastodon. @-mention the group name, e.g. @[email protected]. > > Here's my test post which ended up creating this post in /c/cosocial. > > ! > > It works! Exactly how the post ends up looking in Lemmy is a bit variable, so more experimenting to be done > > ## Follow Lemmy Communities on Mastodon > > !Screenshot of Masto Web interface of [email protected] > > Screenshot of vaneats through CoSocial Masto web interface. You can see a little "group" label next to the name > > I can't actually browse posts from here, don't know if that's a sync issue or what. > > Here's a screenshot of @[email protected] which shows all the OP and comments. > > ! > > All of the posts appear as boosts of the Lemmy accounts that are posting the content > > ## Original > > I reworked this post from a comment to LemmyCA Support on how the ActivityPub protocol works between Lemmy and Mastodon. > >

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