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Debian 12, Zoom in KDE X11 - Strange chat window issue

I know about the issues with Zoom, and in particular Zoom on Wayland. I use Debian 12, kernel 6.1.0-18 (Bluetooth issues on later kernels) with KDE on X11. So I primarily use the web app, which works really well on the whole.

Occasionally, I need to use the app (reasons below for clarity, but not what I'm asking about):

  • When doing a presentation, for example, sharing the screen still allows you to see the other people on the call.
  • Controlling somebody else's presentation in the web view just doesn't work (they can't give you control, as you don't appear in the list).

I have also tried using the Flatpak and had issues (which I cannot remember).

Whenever I use the Zoom app, using the native web app downloaded from https://zoom.us/client/latest/zoom_amd64.deb, I have weird issues when I click the chat window. The mouse pointer turns into the icon used when dragging a window and I cannot click anywhere in Zoom (none of the buttons work, keyboard shortcuts, I can't type in the chat box). But the call continues.

This has happened over and over again in different kernel versions of Debian 12 and different versions of Zoom client (I noticed this maybe 6 months or so ago, so have been regularly trying it since then).

I have searched for an answer and for something close, and have never found anything (I could be searching for the wrong thing).

Does anybody have any suggestions?

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CrowdStrike’s faulty update crashed 8.5 million Windows devices, says Microsoft
  • Being up to date is the entire point and so typically there are only global options to either grab those updates from the vendor or host them internally on a central server but you wouldn’t want to slow roll or stage those updates since that fundamentally reduces the protection from zero days and novel attacks that the product is specifically there to detect and stop.

    That's not your, or Crowdstrikes, decision to make. If organizations have applied settings to not install updates automatically then that's what they expect to happen and you need to honour it. You don't "know best". They do.

  • Mouse support on Linux
  • You might want to include that information in your original post. You are telling people over and over that their suggestions are too expensive. You're wasting peoples time.

  • Firefox users are unhappy with privacy tweaks in the browser's latest version
  • I may have missed something.

    Firefox 127 has introduced privacy tweaks that are causing user dissatisfaction, particularly due to changes like the separation of normal and private windows on the taskbar and the closing of private tabs when the main instance closes on iOS.

    This sounds like it would be the expected behaviour?

    • Despite user complaints, the update includes new privacy and security enhancements such as upgrading subresources from HTTP to HTTPS and masking CPU architecture to reduce fingerprinting.

    This sounds like a good thing?

    • Mozilla plans to address user feedback by reintroducing the "browser.privateWindowSeparation.enabled" preference as an opt-in and adding more intuitive privacy settings in future updates.

    This sounds like a good thing?

  • YouTube Seems to Be Cracking Down on a VPN-Powered Discount
  • The link I posted said this:

    In the U.S., Google charges individual users $14 per month for YouTube Premium, which limits ads and offers a few additional features.

    So it 'limits ads' which means there are still ads.

  • Issue with KDE Plasma 5 and Spotify
  • I use Debian 12. I use Spotify. And I don't have this issue.

    What I have had is various issues with kernel 6.1.0-21. I'm currently using 6.1.0-18 on my laptop and 6.1.0-15 on my desktop and the issue I had are gone. Because of my experience, I'd suggest trying those kennels.

  • I'm giving up — on open source - Blog
  • I wasn't implying criticism isn't allowed.

    But opinions on what somebody should do with their time and project are just that.

    Feedback must be given in a respectful way or it's not effective. That often doesn't happen with open-source projects and until we change the culture around open-source, this is going to just keep happening.

    Opinions ate like assholes. Everybody has one. Doesn't mean its relevant or important. The number of intelligent people who confuse opinion with fact never fails to astound me.

  • I'm giving up — on open source - Blog
  • I agree.

    Playing Devils Advocate it sounds like the options, for them, would be to stop providing a non-paying version entirely.

    I understand where they are coming from but providing an open source version that won't get timely security updates feels like it would be more trouble than it's worth to use.

    If they only want to work on a version that pays for their time I'd suggest they make the whole thing closed source.

  • I'm giving up — on open source - Blog
  • The self-entitlement in open-source has to stop. This is only one example of a maintainer quitting. There are many more.

    And the shaming of projects who want to make money to sustain their projects also has to stop. Nothing is free. Somebody is paying for it in time, resources or money.

    If you don't like what a project is doing, or how they're monetizing, don't use it. Move on.

  • Why is folder sharing between host and guest in KVM so hard?
  • I ended up going to VMware Workstation as it just works. I could never get KVM to share between Linux and Windows host / guest no matter what I tried. Samba wasn't an option for me to use.

    I'm really glad there seems to now be a potential solution in wsdd2.

  • Heliboard goes into 1.0
  • Been using this for about 3 months or so. The one piece missing is good swipe word recognition - its really poor compared to Gboard even after this amount of time. I spend more time correcting words than I saved nor typing them. Used swipe with Gboard for many years previously so I know hope swipe works.

    Any suggestions on how to improve it?