This feels like you are just assuming they want to be the "bad guys" It is more benifical to hear why they did what they did, and them we can talk and educate them out. Lots of this voting is based on fear, and we need to learn how to aswage there fear, or even meet there basic needs. What this ends up as is one side gave false promises they could solve this, the other said it was fine. Who would you chose if you could barily afford to put food on the table the one saying you will be fed or the one saying that there is no issue

I think it is short sighted and kind of dehumanizing to assume they are drones who are merely waning to unite under one person. we can look at the reasons they chose to do this, the material realities that caused them to vote that way. You can only sway people if you understand why they do something so you can convence them to solve it in a better way

you seem to be underestemating the value to the owning class to let the working class vent once every four years, while making no tangable effect. there is no real reason to assume voting is going to end

You say as harris literaly said that she wanted class colaberation ... a charicteristic that has been seen in every type of facism.

also if everyone was trying to beat facism why did Haris make no attempt to bring in the left she was hostile to it at every turn, even at the easiest part of saying "genocide bad"

you did not have them to begin with

why should the left unify with a canidate who was at every option deciding to run farther to the right, a canidate who dicided a genocide was moraly ok? why is that something we should just accept

Palistinian Jews exist, and where not perged, the religion spread as religions do, after WW1 the area was given to the united kingdom, and after ww2 the UK and UN without concent of the Palistinians opened it up to (eruopean) jewish settlement. The issue is that they are not from the area, nor have any claim beyond zionism to the region

Well for Decades the Irealies have both been genociding the Palistinians, and have been on a long push to try to conflait zionism, an origionaly anti-symetic idea in eurpope, that was even embraced by the Nazis, and quinticentialy jewish, so they could use anti-semitism to shield themselvs.

The good guys are the palistinians who where there before anyone else got there, and have been being genocided agian for decades on end, and are being genocided now.

on a scale from 1 to 10 how serious are you in asking this, I ask because I am genuinly unsure if you are confused and unaware of what is happening, or if you are trying to start some shit

The UN has more athority over Lebenon, than Isreal. Note Hezbula is not a terrorist as they clame but a legitimate party in Lebinan and following lebenise law.

I also want to point out that the UN was there for the spupervised demiliterization of Hezbula with the assistence of Lebenon, the same reason Isreal is claiming to be attacking... also isreal did do an indiscriminant bombing on civilian centers so I would be a little quiet as your contry is quite literaly being the very open baddy in this situation

no matter what time it is going to be the second, agian the Democrats are not beholden to the people, they know who's intrests they serve and they lerch farther to the right each election

how do you expect an archive to happen if they are not allowed to archive while it is still up. How are you suposed to track changed or see how the world has shifted. This is a very narrow and in my opinion selfish way to view the world

1 what lemmy lemmy.ml lemmy.world lemm.ee lemmygrad please specify [email protected] I need you to be more specific

Second Oh no your down vote hurt me so much how will I ever recover that someone on the internet disagreed with me.

This is assuming that the dems are anything but Captialist lapdogs, and willing to do any of this. They will not I am sorry to tell you that

John Brown Fidel Castro Joseph Stalin

Hexbear... Authoritarian... Can I have whatever drugs you are taking?

there is under international law a diffrent set of rules of war the Palistianans operate under than Isn'treal do as Palistine is seen as an opressed and colonised people fighting for independence

And then they tank the name X-Box

I cannot see any significant diffrence between the two in what they will do or what they will say, I get stern faced conman facism or laughing facism, both are facism

I mean, am not arguing who did better, I will be honest I both did not watch it, and already voted.

As for what the threat is, I cannot see a significant difrence between Trump and Harris, and there is a real likelyhood Trump wins agian, but the cause for that is that the Dems keep lurching rightword and refuse to even consider trying to move to the left, so people stop approving of them and stop voting.

Agian I am not saying polls one way or the other, but the media fact check, no WatPo is right wing owned by a bilionare, the data they present may or may not be accurate on a case by case, and I would not be suprised if high approval was the turnout here.