Burgersize.

Part of it is to create and push a code of morality on your populace, then control the narrative so that way your side is always doing what's morally good, and the enemy is doing whatever is morally bad. That's why media control is so tight. Not just news, but every facet of entertainment reinforces our prescribed education of an artificial worldview. I could write a book on the anticommunist indoctrination put into children and family shows, and then those demographics start learning from one-sided history books, and then they're exposed to biased news and propagandic documentaries. And that's just the "neutral" liberal shit that's considered progressive or inclusive, enlightened, pacifist, etc. When you get into the hardcore shit like conservative media, military propaganda video games, etc., it's even more apparent.

I found the mask off racism with the Russia thing a shock, but I was expecting it with Palestine. I grew up with this shit during the Iraq War and War on Terror. I thought we'd learned, but the anti-China shit was obnoxious. Then with Russia. Then Iran. By the time it's gotten back to Palestine, I've come to realize that it's never about a specific group being targeted. It's about ensuring a specific group stays dominant, and cutting any others who dare oppose them down. They all pretend to care about human rights until the oppressed fight back, then they only care about colonizers and tyrants.

I just wasn't sure, because we learned about it during all the Juche necromancy stuff, so I couldn't tell what was really happening, lol

So he may very well have been assassinated by the DPRK?

I live in the US, so I'm spoon fed bullshit about NK and can't trust Google searches to save my life. What was the real situation surrounding Kim Jong-nam?

I'm under the suspicion it's not pointless, but an intentional effort to manufacture as high a death toll as possible. I don't think the fascists ever expected or planned for a Ukrainian victory, but rather to sacrifice as many as possible in order to justify a new era of russophobic fascism in Europe.

"Any member of the EU that doesn't hate Russians and blindly support the US waging a proxy war on our borders through Nazi terrorist orgs is obviously an active Russian agent." - the EU, apparent-fucking-ly

I don't doubt that. But I don't doubt that it's going to need to be a thorough victory to prevent the West from having anything to fund further action with. In the end, this is all speculation.

I'd add that it's not just a lack of quality scientific education, but an intentionally-taught distrust of academics and intellectuals. At least here in the US, there's a trend in politics and media to encourage distrust and contempt for scientists. Typically the ringleaders are Christian fundamentalists who dislike scientists whose research validates concepts that contradict their teachings, and believe that Christian "scientists" who concoct conspiracy theories are unfairly shunned and censored by a cabal of corrupt, godless scientists. Most of the anti-science crowd here supports older, discredited sciences that align with Christian theology - at least the racist, colonial-settler flavor of Christianity.

Russia may win this war in the conventional sense. They may take Kiev, install a Russia-friendly government, and even have military forces occupying the country to keep the terrorists from simply walking in and overthrowing them. But the West will do all they can to spread civil unrest in the populace, to get them to side with the russophobes, to fund and arm those russophobes, and to recreate this same model in all of Russia's neighboring countries. I'm not sure you can actually "win" the style of war the imperialists wage nowadays unless the imperialists lose wholesale. If the US and its lackeys keep channeling their propaganda in a region, keep throwing their money in a region, keep arming fascists in a region, then you have an infection you can't control. And if you crack down and secure it, it makes your liberalized population sympathetic to the fascists because they can't see or comprehend the threat to their sovereignty or lives. This is the game the West plays and has played for decades, and I don't think its going to end until the head is cut off the snake and the fascists are cut off from their platforms and funding.

Of course, everyone here knows this. How this is going to turn out for Ukraine, who can say? The terrorists might slip the leash and attack Europe, immediately turning everyone off from the whole thing and giving Russia a needed reprieve. I suspect Russia may win the war, but the peace will be a grueling and draining affair for years, until the US is forced to divert resources elsewhere and the fascists are forced to go underground as their funding dries up.

He hasn't. He knows he can get away with any amount of Nazi support just by spouting some liberal bullshit line about democracy and redirecting the people's animosity towards Russians, which everyone in the West seems to be indoctrinated into hating without a single critical thought.

I have considered that's part of it, that the revisionism is related to it. Makes me wonder if we'll quit admitting the Vietnam War was a bad thing as soon as that exits living memory... kinda scary to know when I'm dead, the bad shit we did will be erased from history books to trick future generations.

I still can't tell if my countrymen were always this indoctrinated and I just notice it more as an adult, or if I actually did watch things reach that point in real time. I swear it was this bad a decade ago, but I was barely an adult then.

Surprising absolutely no one here. We all knew they'd blame it on Russia, just like we know most libs will happily oblige.

It really is. They all seem to be drinking the Koolaid from the same source, too, because I've met a wide variety of people who identify all over the political spectrum, yet when it comes to the USSR or China, they repeat the same talking points and insults almost verbatim. Which, again, is telling, because they hold a variety of nuanced and varied opinions on literally any other economic system or government. They just seem to agree on communism being evil, or at least corrupted by evil gubermints.

Still, libs don't seem to care about fascists unless they punch first. At least here in the US, they only view the Nazis and Japanese negatively, and even then only barely. To them all that matters is who punched first (from their perspective) and who killed more people (from their metrics). On some level, they recognize Nazi's racism as exceptionally awful, but when they believe everybody has committed genocides in the tens of millions, it dilutes it horribly.

My Philosophy of Race professor once mentioned "soft denialism", not about this specifically, but the concept of diluting and undermining the severity of a crime against humanity by arguing that everyone is guilty of something similar.

In the state I teach in, our textbooks make communism out as the greatest failure and evil in the world. A token "6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust" is given, but the history of most of the world goes into more detail about how many millions the alleged idiocy of Mao or the apparent power hungry brutality of Stalin caused. Which is really telling because they take every opportunity to mention when communism allegedly did something bad or failed in a region, but never go into as much depth or detail about any other similar events in history. It's only junior high level geography, but the main focus of all the world history seems to be on how bad socialism is. Every other economic system, war, and historical event is briefly covered in a whitewashed way, but socialism and communism are repeatedly paraded around as evil. This is all the world history they'll get until high school, which will likely have a similar focus.

I've noticed that from when I was in school to now, a decade later, that they've really pushed a "communists were the worse evil all along" narrative. My students, who know very little about the world, know to hate and fear Russia, China, and North Korea, but have never heard of fascism and barely know about Nazis except as edgy jokes.

As a citizen of the US, I feel a very similar pain and sympathize with you, my comrade to the north.

Poland and Finland, though there's more nuance there than libs care to observe. For example, ignoring the fact the territory they took from Poland was Ukrainian territory Poland was, uh, "making Polish". And obviously the Finns wound up joining the Nazis. They also seem to think Ukraine spontaneously fought the Soviets and just happened to get Nazi support later.

They exist in a vacuum where they think the bulk of the Axis powers and allies that fought Russians were somehow wholesome victims who had no choice but to fight for Nazis. But, paradoxically, the USSR can't be forgiven for the Nonaggression Pact (even though the West signed NAPs first and financed much of the Nazi war machine, sometimes even during the war). Liberals have the attention span and object permanence of a wet noodle.

This kinda feels like when people say China will collapse any day now. Like, I know the West is unstable and unsustainable, but if there's a collapse, I suspect even that could just be used for the capitalists as easily as for socialism...