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@mastodon How to change icon of Mastodon list.

Just started using mastodon. Followers, hashtags, bookmarks, list, etc, etc. Lots of backlog man. Started using lists for organising things better. Anybody know how to change there icon? It is a group like icon by default.

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I came across this on Artifact

justingarrison.com Mastodon Is Doomed

Mastodon won't be the next Twitter, and it's not because of Bluesky. The ideals and execution won't scale.

Mastodon Is Doomed

I came across this blogpost regarding Mastodon. I would love to get you guys thoughts. This is from earlier in the year, the authors thoughts may have changed but not likely. Some points make sense others not so much.

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Block Meta/Facebook from Mastodon

(This is an extended version of one of the most widely re-shared post I have ever written on Mastodon.)

The new "Threads" app by Meta (Facebook) is just the old 4-E strategy strategy to destroy Mastodon:

  1. Embrace:

    (what they are doing now) launch a competing but compatible service with that of Mastodon. The vast majority of users, most of whom don't care about the privacy and intimacy of the Mastodon network, will go with the brand with the most name recognition. The number of users already signed up for Threads shows this to be true.

  2. Extend:

    make their service appear to be better with features like search, which they have the resources to do, but the rest of the Mastodon network does not. Also include features for tracking and advertising, sell this as a good thing, "a better place to grow your personal brand, your business." When people think about joining either Facebook Threads or some other Mastodon instance, which will they choose? "Oh, Threads users can also talk with Mastodon users so they are basically the same? Well, why not just use Threads then?" The one with the most name recognition will always win.

    Then comes the blogs and YouTube videos about, "I tried Threads, Bluesky, Mastodon, Pixelfed, each for 1 month, here is what I learned" type videos in which the author decides Threads or Bluesky is best because they have better features and you don't have to decide which instance to join.

  3. Extinguish:

    after attracting a critical mass of users large enough to decimate the user base of the competing Mastodon network, and temporarily making appear to have better features like search, quietly remove compatibility with the Mastodon network.

    This might effect only 10% of Mastodon users because the other 90% will be on Threads. Then people will think, "who cares if we lose contact with that tiny minority of old Mastodon users, they should have just joined Threads by now anyways, they still can. It has search, and more people voted for it with their patronage. And you don't have to think about what instance to join, its easier\!"

    At this point, people begin to wonder what the point of Mastodon even is.

  4. Enshittification:

    without any real competition to keep people from leaving for an alternative, start exploiting users for more and more content for ad revenue, while also exploiting advertisers with ever-increasing costs of ad revenue, while also cutting costs on the quality of their service until it becomes unusable. But at this point it is too late for Mastodon, the momentum it once had is now long gone and no longer a threat to the Meta corporation. Their investment paid off.

Meta is one of the worlds largest corporations that has made most of its money not just through advertising but from gathering and selling people's personal information. They are scared to death about losing control over the Internet that they had gained over the past 15 years or so, and they are fighting to take that control back for themselves.

We built this, but now a corporation like Meta/Facebook feels they have the right to exploit it for all its riches until it is destroyed. Don't let it happen. Join the Fediblock cause, it is the only way to protect our home-grown community from corporate take-over.

Eugene Rochko thinks Threads is good, he is wrong

Eugene Rochko who developed Mastodon as a Twitter-like app based on the ActivityPub protocol, has a blog post explaining why he thinks federating with Threads is good for Mastodon.

> We have been advocating for interoperability between platforms for years. The biggest hurdle to users switching platforms when those platforms become exploitative is the lock-in of the social graph, the fact that switching platforms means abandoning everyone you know and who knows you. The fact that large platforms are adopting ActivityPub is not only validation of the movement towards decentralized social media, but a path forward for people locked into these platforms to switch to better providers. Which in turn, puts pressure on such platforms to provide better, less exploitative services. This is a clear victory for our cause, hopefully one of many to come.

!Eugen Rochko: \<q\>if you've got questions about what interoperability with Threads means, we wrote this up back in July, and you can still refer to it. Make no mistake, this is huge for Mastodon. Currently people have to choose between X, Mastodon, and Threads, and network effects play a dominant role in that choice. IF we can say, you can access all the folks that went to Threads from a Mastodon account, that makes it a far more attractive option given all of its other perks :winking\_face:

No, Threads will get people to leave Mastodon in droves. Really all Facebook is doing here is leaching users away from Mastodon. The average user doesn't know or care about the “perks” of non-Facebook Mastodon instances that Eugene is talking about. They will go with the service with the most name recognition every time, rather than trust an independent, small-time instance operator.

Threads is just Facebook with ActivityPub compatibility and extended Facebook's ads and tracking. The goal is to pull people away from decentralized networks and back to being under their control. Then the network effects Eugene is talking about will kick in, but moving people away from Mastodon and toward Threads.

History repeats itself again

We have seen all this before. Google did something similar when they first embraced support for the open and federated XMPP protocol in their Google Talk (GChat) app, and exactly the situation I described above happened. Eventually Google shut it down, and started calling the original XMPP apps "unauthorized third-party apps," although in fact Google was itself originally a third-party to the existing XMPP services that existed before GChat was invented.

People can and do still use XMPP, and I would encourage you to use it as well for video/voice/text chat. But all that momentum and popularity was extinguished, and was never really regained, at least not in the 9 years since Google extinguished it. So Google was successful in destroying a community of federated services using a popular communication protocol that made it difficult for Google to track and control people on the Internet.

We know for sure what Facebooks goal is not: they do not want to do something good for the various communities of people that have organically sprung-up around Mastodon and the other ActivityPub-based federated social networks. Mastodon does not need to make this mistake with Facebook Thraeds.

Mastodon and ActivityPub are important

Mastodon became most popular in the wake of Elon Musk buying out the Twitter corporation. Calling himself a "free speech aboslutist," which sounds as though he believes everyone should have a voice online no matter how unsavory that voice might be, quickly proved to be anything but a proponent of free speech, quietly censoring his critics and the political groups he hated, while giving a voice to everyone else, including (seemingly enthusiastically) giving a voice to racists and hate speech.

This happens every so often, although not always with the amount of drama churning around a single central figure such as Elon Musk. People see how dangerous it is that the communities we form over the Internet can only actually exist at the whims of an impersonal corporation that might at any point go insane and destroy their communities. When an Elon Musk event happens, then the problem becomes clear to everyone: they had been putting their faith into a monarch and/or despot like Twitter, and now it has turned against them.

The solution to this is, and always has been, the democratic approach, which in this case is Mastodon. Do not allow any one authority to have aboslute control over the plane of existence. Allow people to opt-in, and give them a say in how their community is run. Trust that people are smart enough to understand what is in their own best interest, and allow them to make their own decisions and cast their own votes. This is how ActivityPub and Mastodon work. But if a democracy is not careful, it can easily be overwhelmed and elimitated by the well-equipped armies competing for their resources.

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If becomes thread-like, I'll leave social network forever. I'm done with meta wanting to control everything, chiefly the freedom of speech in a network used to communicate. I mean, really?

If @mastodon becomes thread-like, I'll leave social network forever. I'm done with meta wanting to control everything, chiefly the freedom of speech in a network used to communicate. I mean, really? The upsidedown World.

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Check out my other social media pages, need to add Mastodon!!

Check out my other social media pages, need to add Mastodon!!

Can i post xxx videos on here, or nah?

@mastodon

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#hello friends on

\#hello friends on @mastodon

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Exited to join

Exited to join @mastodon

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(https://mastodon.social/tags/mastodon) app widgets on iOS don’t work as they should (https://mastodon.social/tags/bugreport) (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon)

\#mastodon app widgets on iOS don’t work as they should #bugreport @mastodon

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Hello (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon)

Hello @mastodon Just new here 🤔

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(https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) are you free?

@mastodon are you free?

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i love your slogan, but so far the site seems boring asf (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) will check back in a few years

i love your slogan, but so far the site seems boring asf @mastodon will check back in a few years

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Hola! Mundo! Hoy inicio usando (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) (https://mastodon.social/tags/somosdigitales) (https://mastodon.social/tags/presentacion)

Hola! Mundo! Hoy inicio usando @mastodon #somosdigitales #presentacion

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Well well well What do we have here Hi (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) Here we Go

Well well well What do we have here Hi @mastodon Here we Go

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(https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) is growing but it can never replace (https://mastodon.social/tags/twitter). The day Mastodon will make things commercial it will flip.

@mastodon is growing but it can never replace #twitter. The day Mastodon will make things commercial it will flip.

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Trying to figure out how to find community on (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) trying to completely switch over from Twitter

Trying to figure out how to find community on @mastodon trying to completely switch over from Twitter

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Im new to (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) . Helo

Im new to @mastodon . Helo

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How to get follower on (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) ?

How to get follower on @mastodon ?

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Hi, I am from Indonesia.

Hi, I am from Indonesia.

New user on @mastodon

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Hello (https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon)

Hello @mastodon

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Any idea if we can use filters for posts in a specific language?

Any idea if we can use filters for posts in a specific language?

\#mastodon \#mastoquestion @[email protected] @[email protected]

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New on Mastodon
  • I've been wanting to find more peeps to follow on Mastodon for a while, so I did some research. Here's some lists and resources to find people.

  • BBC extending Mastodon social media trial
  • Corporate media are leery of the fediverse because the capitalist class hasn’t (yet) gotten control of it. They aren’t able shape the narratives here like they’re able to on corporate social media platforms.

    We are on their radar, though, and they will eventually try to control us. US military-industrial complex think tank Atlantic Council report: Collective Security in a Federated World (PDF link)

  • BlueskyBridge: Opt-Out is a terrible default and should be reconsidered
  • @BuddyTheBeefalo I don't really get the problem tho? All Information that you post on Fediverse is already public, that's how ActivityPub works, no?

  • BBC extending Mastodon social media trial
  • This is the best summary I could come up with:


    We were aiming to learn about how much work and cost this involved, how many people we’d reach, what levels of engagement we would get and to explore the risks and benefits of the federated model.

    The trial so far has been really effective in helping us learn about how the Fediverse is evolving, what technical support a Mastodon server needs, what the costs are, and how a large media organisation like the BBC can engage with the many different overlapping communities that exist in this rapidly changing space.

    We are also planning to start some technical work into investigating ways to publish BBC content more widely using ActivityPub, the underlying protocol of Mastodon and the Fediverse.

    Reassuringly, most of the comments and feedback have been positive, welcoming both our interest and the way we have set things up.We’ve had really encouraging levels of engagement(i.e. replies, re-posts and likes) on Mastodon.

    Because this an experiment and a trial, it's not always the main priority for all the teams involved, so we may not be able to engage and reply as much as the Mastodon community and culture expect, and we recognise this could be an issue going forward.

    Because of the potential sensitivity around news stories, we need to be particularly careful with our editorial processes and within the scope of this trial we are not in a position to guarantee time and effort from other teams outside of R&D.


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  • What server should I join?
  • https://c.im has 5000 characters limit.
    https://kolektiva.social (anarchist) has 10 000
    https://infosec.exchange has 11 000 characters and formatting.
    https://qoto.org has 65 535 character limit and other features, but some servers (including Universeodon and main British one - mastodonapp.uk) block it.

  • If becomes thread-like, I'll leave social network forever. I'm done with meta wanting to control everything, chiefly the freedom of speech in a network used to communicate. I mean, really?
  • There are better arguments for not federating with Meta’s Threads, some of which can be found in [email protected]. Firstly, Threads isn’t going to be able to restrict speech on other instances, at least not in any direct fashion. And secondly and more importantly, an argument for “freedom of speech” without qualifications is either naive or disingenuous: Paradox of tolerance

  • If becomes thread-like, I'll leave social network forever. I'm done with meta wanting to control everything, chiefly the freedom of speech in a network used to communicate. I mean, really?
  • @glimse I read something and I was afraid of possible merge of mastodon with meta and that's depressing. Thank you though. ☺️

  • Eugen's post about Threads integration
  • The average user doesn’t know or care about the “perks” of non-Facebook Mastodon instances that Eugene is talking about. They will go with the service with the most name recognition every time, rather than trust an independent, small-time instance operator.

    Threads advertises itself as "interoperable with the Fediverse", which will fuel curiosity in some users. And Mastodon isn't only small-time operated instances. Creators of Vivaldi web browser created their Mastodon instance and bundle it with their browser account. Mozilla is preparing to do the same. Medium and Flipboard are another examples.

    And of course, we have official instances of Mastodon, Pixelfed or e.g. /kbin.

  • The new Mammoth app is a much simpler take on Mastodon
  • This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The official Mastodon app is fine, but there’s also Ivory, Mona, Fedilab, Ice Cubes, Elk, Mastoot, and many others.

    This openness is part of the whole appeal of the ActivityPub-powered social networking ecosystem, and it has already led to some solid new ideas.

    Now, with the launch of Mammoth 2 for Mac, iPhone, and iPad, the app is going even deeper into curation and personalization: it’s launching a series of “Smart Lists” filled with good posts, a set of suggested people and accounts to follow, and more.

    Most lists are filled with websites and well-known posters, so they’re more like a starting point than a long-term solution.

    The default process has improved over time, but it’s still a lot of work to pick a server, sign up, find people, and get your timeline tuned just the way you like.

    In general, he says he sees the app as a way to explore the entire fediverse, whether it’s on Mastodon or Pixelfed or anywhere else.


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  • Exited to join
  • @himohin Welcome to the fediverse :)

  • [@mastodon](https://lemmy.ml/c/mastodon) are you free?
  • @auf does it run on blockchain? Awesome. I'll Do My Own Research jajajja

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  • @0x2d @sure >Made by kiwifarms
    You people are insane