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Haveno Release v0.3.2 - I will only post update on Monero Town and Twitter.
Haveno is a consensus of community volunteered and organised nodes around the global enabling the free trade of Monero between both traditional and cryptocurrencies, privately, anonymously and securely via Tor.

I have no release the first pre-releases of the Haveno app, you're welcome to visit the home page to download the binary, please be aware the first build collected telemetry over tor, and fails if for some reason you're not connected, if you're not comfortble with any telemetry being collected you can follow the guide in the documentation on Haveno building fro source, where telemetry is already removed.
We just use telemetry to report errors, that's all, it help greatly in detecting issues the user doesn't immediately see.
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Perhaps at some point I'll address the drama, but I'm more inclined to fixed and bugs you might have for the meantime, I've released most of you are actually having trouble with with getting past the on-boarding stage, I have fixes for both of those coming up today so you will see a working app where you can login and pot trades today again this will just be from Android and Linux and then in few days .
Monero mentioned on the Tucker Carlson Show
YouTube Video
Click to view this content.
Here is the transcription of the Monero part (transcribed manually, so there may be typos).
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Tucker Carlson: The most frustrating part from my perspective is the inability to use cryptocurrency, apparently, with any privacy. I mean that is the core promise, you know, I earned the money, didn't do anything wrong and I'd like to buy something that's sort of no one's business. Whether I'm buying it or not and I would like to do that in privacy. I don't think that's a weird thing to want, it's a human thing to want. Is that possible? Is my question, is it now possible to conduct any kind of business with crypto anonymously?
Roger Ver: So in the early days everybody thought Bitcoin was basically anonymous and people treated it that way, and then websites came up that were selling things that the governments might not necessarily you to buy and people were using Bitcoin for that because they thought it was basically anonymous, and later on we found out that it wasn't anonymous at all. But additional steps were taken to make Bitcoin even less anonymous, and today most people are just using custodial wallets which are, you know, it's not even a wallet it's just an account and it's no more private than your Bank of America or PayPal account, and in fact it's even less private than those things because anybody can take a look at the blockchain and see what's there.
But luckily there's other cryptocurrencies out there that do give people more privacy, so there's things like Monero which most people are now using if they want some privacy. But there's even more exciting technologies and coins out there, there's another one called Zano, that allows anybody to create their own privacy token in which nobody can see what's going on. And if you really want to get the three letter agencies upset, or governments upset, there's a project called Confidental Layer, which is creating a bridge from Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, and Ethereum, on to Zano, so you can take Bitcoin with no privacy at all, or Ethereum with no privacy at all, and brdige it permissionlessly with no custodian and no central point of attack onto Zano, and when it's on the Zano you have very very strong privacy with that as well, so I think that's gonna make a whole lot more privacy come to entire cryptocurrency ecosystem.
But governments are gonna hate that, like Monero that I mentioned before, it's preemptively banned from being listed on most exchanged and in most of the world at this point, and that's simply because governments have much less of an ability to spy on people that are using things like Monero or Zano, and that's why I'm a big fan of things like Monero or Zano today.
And in fact today, I would be embarrassed to promote... I am embarrassed to promote Bitcoin to people today because the transactions are slow, expensive, unreliable, and you have no privacy. I'd be proud to promote something like a Monero or Zano or ZCash or ZCoin or any of these privacy tools out there because those are the ones that provide more individual control to people and more privacy and more economic freedom to people over the world.
People are claiming that Bitcoin is freedom money, but I'm really afraid that they're literally building the financial prison walls around themselves. Like if you look at what's going on El Salvador, everybody is excited about Bitcoin there, but they're all using custodial accounts that the government can see every single transaction you're making and they can freeze your account at any time, that's the exact opposite of economic freedom, that's economic government control. So anybody that's paying attention should be really really concerned about this and they should be advocating the use of cryptocurrencies in which individuals can actually have control of their own money and have control over their own lives and their own destiny. Maybe that'll be Bitcoin thanks to this new technology called Cofidental Layer that bridges it onto Zano, but I don't know what it's going to be, but we need to be really really careful because, you know, it could wind up that we've before we know it and before we realize it we built the financial prison walls around us and it's too late to get out and too late to escape, so let's be aware of this today, and you know, watch out.
✋ node operators enable a ban list
The Monero Research Lab (MRL) has decided to recommend that all Monero node operators enable a ban list
https://github.com/Boog900/monero-ban-list/blob/main/ban_list.txt
- Download the ban list and:
./monerod --ban-list <file-path-to-ban-list>
🧐 https://gist.github.com/Rucknium/76edd249c363b9ecf2517db4fab42e88
Privacy and Anonymity in Monero: Pedersen Commitments, Schnorr Signatures, Ring Signatures, ECDH etc
I have a written a blog post on how Monero uses Cryptography (ECDH, Pedersen Commitments, Schnorr Signatures, Ring Signatures etc) to add privacy & anonymity on the blockchain
https://risencrypto.github.io/Monero/
I have covered most of the cryptography used except for RangeProofs (Bulletproofs) which I plan to cover later in a separate post.
Do let me know if you find any mistakes or if something isn't clear.
By u/HenryDaHorse on r/monero
Tornado Cash Court Ruling - Monero Hits $211
Monero Hits Two-Year High of $211 as Privacy Coin Market Sees Surge Following Tornado Cash Court Ruling
Monero surged to $211.07 earlier today, its highest value since May 2022, before settling at $205.05. The coin saw a 17.8% increase in just one day and has risen 30.6% over the past week. Monero's price spike comes as privacy coins across the market have experienced significant gains. The entire sector has risen over 12% in the last 24 hours, with coins like Haven seeing a 217% rise, Verge up 188%, and Zcash climbing 27.5%. Smaller privacy tokens like Iridium and Haven have also seen major gains, reflecting growing interest in the privacy coin market. This surge is linked to a recent U.S. Fifth Circuit Court ruling, which overturned the U.S. Treasury's sanctions on the coin mixer Tornado Cash. The court ruled that Tornado Cash’s immutable smart contracts could not be classified as property, thus exempting them from sanctions. The ruling has been a major victory for privacy advocates and blockchain developers. In response, Tornado Cash's TORN token surged from around $3.60 in November to nearly $18, even briefly reaching $33.64.
Monero and other privacy coins use cryptographic techniques such as zk-SNARKs and ring signatures to protect transaction privacy. These coins are considered more private than traditional cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, where transaction details are publicly accessible. While privacy coins are praised for offering anonymity similar to cash, they face significant regulatory scrutiny. Governments and law enforcement have raised concerns that their privacy features could enable illegal activities. As a result, privacy coins like Monero have been delisted from major exchanges, including Binance and Kraken.
Despite these challenges, Monero remains the leader in the privacy coin space, with its market cap far exceeding that of other privacy coins. Over the past month, Monero has risen 21%, maintaining its position as the largest privacy coin by market capitalization. In addition to its price jump, technical indicators show strong bullish momentum for Monero, with its Directional Movement Index (DMI) reaching 41.4, signaling that buyers continue to dominate. However, rising selling pressure suggests this upward trend could slow, with the next resistance level around $217.
Across the board, the price action for privacy coins has been driven by the growing interest in decentralized, anonymous transactions. In addition to Monero, other privacy coins like Dash, Verge, and Zcash have posted strong weekly gains. Dash, in particular, surged by 167% in November. Ongoing market interest in privacy coins reflects increasing demand for more secure and private cryptocurrency options, following the regulatory developments surrounding Tornado Cash.
Monerochan Token: A Trojan Horse for Promoting Monero


Monerochan Token: A Trojan Horse for Promoting Monero
Hello Monerochads,
We understand that the Monero community values privacy and utility over hype and speculation. But the reality is, the meme cycle is here. Every bull run brings a wave of speculative mania, and projects fueled by absurd ideas and flashy memes dominate attention. Instead of ignoring this, we’re proposing a way to use it to our advantage: Monerochan Token ($MONEROCHAN).
This project isn’t just another cash grab or speculative distraction. It’s a Trojan Horse, designed to bring more attention to Monero, onboard new users, and provide funding for tools that benefit the community.
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Who’s Behind This?
We’re the Based Money Collective, a team of long-time Monero community members who have built various projects—both for profit and not-for-profit—within the crypto space. To confirm our authenticity, we’ve reached out to the moderators at monero.town with our Monero nyms.
This project isn’t about us; it’s about the Monero community and using its creativity, memes, and culture to attract new users to Monero.
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Why Monerochan Token?
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Reaching New Audiences
- Let’s face it: the average crypto speculator isn’t going out of their way to buy Monero because they don’t understand its value or importance. Privacy needs a hook, and $MONEROCHAN is that hook. This token reaches people who otherwise wouldn’t care about Monero or even know it exists.
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Leveraging Speculative Mania
- Speculation drives interest, and rising prices bring attention. This project uses clown-world speculation to draw eyes to Monero, growing awareness through the meme cycle.
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Building Tools for Monero
- The attention generated by $MONEROCHAN will help us build critical tools for Monero’s ecosystem integrating with web3.
- XMR Swap Service: A vending machine-like service where users can send XMR and receive $MONEROCHAN (or other tokens) in return.
- XMR–ERC20 Atomic Swaps: We’re researching the existing atomic swap code base to create a deployable front end, allowing seamless swaps between XMR and ERC-20 tokens.
- The attention generated by $MONEROCHAN will help us build critical tools for Monero’s ecosystem integrating with web3.
- Privacy friendly eth wallet: In a world dominated by mobile wallets we want to provide some of our personal tools for interacting with web3 in an opsec safe manner.
- Community Growth
- The more that Monerochan Token gains traction, the more it brings new users into Monero’s ecosystem. Many people are drawn to Monero through curiosity sparked by memes and culture, and this token amplifies that effect.
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What’s in It for Monero?
Monero works as advertised, and its adoption in real-world markets is something to be proud of. But the lack of price appreciation has drawbacks. Here’s how more attention benefits the community:
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Boosting Hashrate
- A higher price makes mining Monero more attractive, increasing the network’s hashrate and security.
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Code Contributions
- More eyes on Monero’s code base mean more opportunities for innovation and improvements.
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Funding Research & Development
- Increased attention and community involvement can fund crucial advancements in Monero’s technology.
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Real-World Utility
- A higher price means more people holding and using Monero, which boosts its adoption in markets and enhances its utility as digital cash.
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Tokenomics & Distribution
- Max Supply: 1,337,000,000 $MONEROCHAN
- Fair Launch: 100% fair distribution, with liquidity locked forever to ensure no rugs.
- Current Market Cap: Under $1 million
We’ve reserved a bag of tokens for the Monero community. Post your Ethereum address, and we’ll send you $MONEROCHAN for free—no strings attached, no money required. All we ask is that you don’t cash it out as a quick grab—hold it, support the project, and help us grow Monero’s visibility.
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Roadmap
Phase 1: Soft Launch
- Distribute airdrops to the Monero community and targeted groups, including 4chan’s Monero General thread, to build early interest.
Phase 2: Initial Release
- Burn a significant portion of whale-held tokens to create scarcity and build confidence in the tokenomics. The team burned 25% of the supply yesterday.
- List $MONEROCHAN on all major decentralized exchange (DEX) aggregators, kicking off a marketing push to reach a broader audience.
Phase 3: Monerochan NFT Drop (April 2025)
- Launch the first Monerochan NFT collection, requiring $MONEROCHAN tokens for purchase.
Phase 4: Continued Development
- Develop a “vending machine” service, enabling users to exchange XMR for $MONEROCHAN seamlessly.
- Research and implement MONEROCHAN–XMR atomic swaps, laying the groundwork for smooth ERC20 atomic swaps.
- Release a second Monerochan NFT set, expanding the utility and engagement for $MONEROCHAN holders.
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How to Get Involved
1. Claim Free Tokens – No Strings Attached
Post your Ethereum address, and we’ll send you $MONEROCHAN tokens for free. No strings attached, no investment required. This is our way of ensuring the Monero community gets ground-floor access to this project.
However, we ask that you don’t just sell it for a quick cash grab. The only way this project succeeds in bringing more attention to Monero is by increasing its market cap. The more $MONEROCHAN is held by strong hands within the community, the less selling pressure there is, which makes it easier for the market cap to grow.
2. Join the Community
- Website: monerochan.biz
- Telegram: t.me/monerochanToken
- Twitter: @MonerochanToken
3. Buy More Tokens
Monerochan Token is live on Ethereum and trading on Uniswap.
- Uniswap Contract Address:
0x3f7dB133aFf2F012C8534b36aB9731fe9Ee7bd43
Steps to Buy:
- Download an Ethereum wallet (e.g., Metamask).
- Swap Monero into Ethereum.
- Go to Uniswap and purchase $MONEROCHAN.
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A Community-Centric Mission
We know this project won’t appeal to everyone in the Monero community, and that’s okay. But for those who see the potential in using speculative mania to drive real-world adoption, Monerochan Token is a tool to amplify Monero’s message.
This is a side quest with real benefits: more users, more tools, and more visibility for Monero. Let’s use clown-world speculation to strengthen what truly matters: privacy, decentralization, and digital cash that works.
Stay based, Based Money Collective
PSA: Haveno-Reto is now RetoSwap
Haveno-Reto has become RetoSwap with a new X handle and a new SimpleX room. It would be best to remove the old SimpleX room and join the new one. At the moment the website is still haveno-reto.com but I expect that to be changed soon.
Edit: new site is live at RetoSwap.com
Take a break from Twitter


Take a break from Twitter
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If you use the Tor Browser or the Mullvad Browser you will see the popup of NoScript - because your identity at X can be open to other websites in your web browser. Keep your privacy in mind.
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You may leave traces without realizing it. The way you write, what you read about and how much, when you are active, etc. Remember, if you are a Monero XMR user, you may not want this at all!
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Mental hygiene; it feels good not to be at the mercy of the posts there for a while. Try it out!
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It usually takes up a lot of your time without you doing anything productive.
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Elon Musk himself is a major disinformation disseminator on his own platform. But many of the posts there are also questionable.
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X Using Your Tweets to Train Its AI. And even if you have deactivated the artificial intelligence option, the users you interact with probably haven't deactivated it. Because it was introduced without notifying the users.
Exolix has partnered with Monerujo!
Exolix & Monerujo entered into a partnership🤝
Monerujo, the trusted and user-friendly Android wallet for Monero, now offers seamless swaps with Exolix!
Here’s what our integration brings to you:
- Zero-confirmation swaps for amounts under 0.3 XMR
- Low minimum exchanges starting at just $5
- No KYC or registration required
All the details are available here!
To celebrate, we’re launching a special Giveaway for the Monero community!
Joining is easy:
- Complete a swap on Exolix through your Monerujo wallet anytime from November 12th to 24th.
- No forms or personal details — your privacy is our top priority.
On November 25th, we’ll randomly select three winning transactions, and each winner will receive 1 XMR in their Monero wallet. Good luck 😉
Vessal—Looking for Feedback!
Hi all,
I'm Connor, founder of Vessal, and wanted to (1) share with the group and (2) collect any feedback or suggestions you all may have.
Briefly, Vessal aims to make transportation private and secure. In some ways, it can be equated to a "VPN for transportation."
We are still relatively in our infancy, and therefore may be a little clunky sometimes as far as usability. Of course, we are always striving to improve!
Thanks for your time and taking a look, and again, we appreciate any feedback or suggestions you may have.
Connor
probability theory question: mean subsequent block time
I'm trying to arrive at the function that describes the following, but can't quite figure it out for multiple blocks. (there are some useful insights for a single block here.)
assume the Poisson point process that is the arrival of proof-of-work blocks on Monero. the mean of the block times is the target block time t
(120 seconds).
also assume n
subsequent blocks.
also assume p
, the probability of n
subsequent blocks having a mean block time less than or equal to T
.
given t
, n
and p
, how can I calculate T
?
Haveno is Live on Mainnet: How to Install


What is Haveno?
Haveno is a decentralized exchange (DEX) for trading Monero (XMR) p2p. It offers a user-friendly, private, and secure way to trade without relying on centralized exchanges. Think of Haveno as a p2p Localmonero alternative.
Download Haveno
- Visit https://haveno-reto.com and download the version for your operating system (Windows, macOS, or Linux).
- Some antivirus programs might flag Haveno due to the embedded Monero codebase. This is a false positive and happens because Monero code includes mining functionality. If you are concerned, review the source code on the Haveno-reto GitHub.
- If the software is blocked, you can add it as an exception or temporarily disable your antivirus during installation.
[!Video Tutorial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqy741YvCEo)
What is Haveno-Reto? Understanding the Network
You might be wondering, what’s the difference between Haveno and Haveno-Reto? Here’s a simple analogy:
- Haveno is the software.
- Haveno-Reto is the live p2p network you connect to for real trades on the mainnet (third-party, not by the Haveno devs).
Think of it like Minecraft: Minecraft is the software, while Hypixel is a server you connect to for multiplayer games. Similarly, Haveno is the software, and Haveno-Reto is the network where real trading happens.
Avoid Testnet Confusion
If you download the unconfigured client from the main Haveno-Dex GitHub repository, you’ll only connect to the Monero testnet. This means you won't be able to make real trades. To trade on the mainnet, make sure you're using the pre-configured Haveno-Reto client.
Haveno is live on mainnet and you can use it today but many people are still struggling to install it, mainly due to a lack of easily accessible information. This guide is supposed to address this.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask them in this thread!
Youtube Video Monero mentioned: 'Centralized exchanges and governments don't like what they can't control.'


From min 3:53 about Monero.
Gupaxx v1.5.1 important fixes
Fix Release of Gupaxx Full Changelog: v1.5.0...v1.5.1 Changes Fixes Freeze after some time Xmrig could not be started after Xmrig-Proxy manually (Linux/MacOS) Node and Proxy custom args were not p...

cross-posted from: https://monero.town/post/4625591
> cross-posted from: https://monero.town/post/4625590 > > > https://github.com/Cyrix126/gupaxx/releases/tag/v1.5.1 > > > > Gupaxx v1.5.1 important fixes > > > > - Freeze after some time > > - Xmrig could not be started after Xmrig-Proxy manually (Linux/MacOS) > > - Node and Proxy custom args were not parsed correctly > > - Node and Proxy custom args were applied if not empty in simple mode > > - Unable to save node selection in Proxy Tab > > - P2Pool status could not get green if verbosity level was below 3 > > - Crashes on Wayland
Unofficial XMRBazaar SimpleX Group
My link (possibly slower, but uncensorable) https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=2-7&smp=smp%3A%2F%2FPtsqghzQKU83kYTlQ1VKg996dW4Cw4x_bvpKmiv8uns%3D%40smp18.simplex.im%2FsBdaFdTh8qCzSuVdYqI7J9XhZAV5BDbq%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-3%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEA9deQfu1cIy26Z5rgKQkuoSsUTYaT6FAynZghG9OMZgk%253D%26srv%3Dlyqpnwbs2zqfr45jqkncwpywpbtq7jrhxnib5qddtr6npjyezuwd3nqd.onion&data=%7B%22type%22%3A%22group%22%2C%22groupLinkId%22%3A%22XIEwZOBLi7wgRMUQhqsotA%3D%3D%22%7D
SimpleX Directory Service (faster but censorable) Link to join the group XMRBazaar: https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=2-7&smp=smp%3A%2F%2Fhpq7_4gGJiilmz5Rf-CswuU5kZGkm_zOIooSw6yALRg%3D%40smp5.simplex.im%2FsWwpeS8HJWWRSSehva2u5D1O8RCys6SI%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-3%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEA5rQ8ytC4ghZE9kLug0Bhh3RSfauu7nwvaFbMID2B0i0%253D%26srv%3Djjbyvoemxysm7qxap7m5d5m35jzv5qq6gnlv7s4rsn7tdwwmuqciwpid.onion&data=%7B%22type%22%3A%22group%22%2C%22groupLinkId%22%3A%22nULpAvFCXcojzRK7hKTA6g%3D%3D%22%7D
Edit: i see no difference in those links. I wonder how the directory would make that link into a link that would work at all times if it's the same link.
Edit 2: nvm i see the differences now. Had to look farther in
eXMR - fraud


Fraud eXMR
An article on coinmarketcap caught my attention because Monero was mentioned. It mentioned a centralized exchange called yobit, which I had never heard of before, so I did some research.
It seems EXMR is offered there.
Perhaps the websites concerned will be made aware that this is a scam, the name 'Monero' and 'XMR' are being used. coinmarketcap.com also has a certain responsibility due to its reach.
Tari merged mining, GOOGLE and saberhagen.eth


A few hours ago, we listened to the podcast (twitter) in which Fluffypony talked about merged mining with Tari, among other things. Anyway, it was also discussed that Google now also has information about saberhagen.eth and Google AI also processes email content. Google knows a lot. hf in Kenya opexodus77
A friendly reminder not to use public spying chains.eth or Google.
Not a surprise to us on this website here.
Monero is the successor of Bitcoin:
- automatically private and uncensorable
- decentralized, any computer can participate
- any PC can easily mine XMR with the GUI wallet
- Faster transactions than Bitcoin
- low transaction fees, even with high utilization
👍
transactions only to initial nodes they know and trust. I don’t know how to do that
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Create your own fullnode and leave it running all the time. So don't just start it when it is needed for transactions or interactions with Monero. There are also very accessible methods for this, such as PiNodeXMR, which easily converts an SBC such as RaspberryPi into a secure Monero full node.
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Use Tor and a known trusted Tor node, e.g. hashvaultsvg2rinvxz7kos77hdfm6zrd5yco3tx2yh2linsmusfwyad.onion from hashvault Pool.
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Use VPN (and a known trusted node)
Exolix or Trocador, could be targeted
Use VPN/Tor and the wallets from Cake Wallet and Edge.app.
Yes cakewallet, stack wallet, and finally monero.com!
Yes! Hi @[email protected], I know I responded to you on our community page, but leaving our response here as well for future viewers: "There seems to have been some XMPP synchronization issues and I believe your message was affected. I will inquire with you directly via Lemmy’s messaging system."
Node operators who use this list should subscribe to Boog900/monero-ban-list updates so that a new version can be added when changes are made to the list.
Hey! @[email protected] Your down voting most comments (60%) here, want to let us know what is bothering you?
Hi, I'm one of the developers. We're working on making running the maker side way more accessible. That will lead to lower spreads. The current state is caused by to the fact that the taker needs to deposit their Bitcoin first (to prevent DOS attacks). This will change when Monero gets transaction chaining. Until then we will still be improving the setup a lot, especially our docs. You can always post in our matrix rooms if you have any questions.
online token vending machine
pump.fun is the place you're looking for.
This sure clarifies the circumstances. I appreciate the explanation and went on to verify the claims.
Here are the corresponding Etherscan-links to spare others the hassle:
- [0x2274] MONEROCHAN creation
- [0x2274] Uniswap funding / locking
- [0xB9A1] Buying 789,420,933 (at time of writing)
- [0xB9A1] Burning of 383,913,580 (at time of writing)
So far I couldn't detect any discrepancies. Note that, on Blockchair, whale.monerochan.eth appears to resolve to 0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
, while airdrops come from 0x4642, after being funded by 0xB9A1.
Thank you for the onboarding!
I understand and respect the value of rejecting price speculation, as it helps maintain a culture focused on the technology and Monero's mission. However, I believe there's a real threat we need to acknowledge: Monero requires higher liquidity than it currently has. A shrinking market cap reduces liquidity, which could jeopardize its utility as a currency.
The anti-moonboy rhetoric in the Monero community is valuable because it keeps us grounded in what truly matters for peer-to-peer cash, rather than short-term profit. But there are challenges that even the best technology can't solve—adoption is a social problem, not just a technical one. For Monero to thrive as a currency, it needs more users who not only accept it but also use it regularly. While price stability is important, long-term price declines are not sustainable for adoption. Monero needs enough exit liquidity and volume to function effectively as a transactional currency.
Adoption leads to the growth of circular economies, which is something we all want for Monero. To make that happen, people need confidence that their holdings will at least keep pace with inflation. The easiest way to achieve this is by increasing demand. More attention on Monero doesn’t mean it will suddenly attract moonboys or turn it into a speculative circus dominated by a figurehead promoting ETFs. Instead, it brings in more people, expanding the anonymity set and increasing its utility as digital cash.
Speculation Isn’t New to Monero
Let’s not forget that speculation has been part of Monero’s history from the beginning. A decade ago, there was a ton of price speculation even within the Monero community. For example:
- A WallStreetBets post from 9 years ago mentions Monero when it was just $0.40.
- A BitcoinTalk forum thread from 2014 openly discusses "XMR Monero speculation."
The subreddit r/MoneroMarkets has been active for nearly a decade, serving as a space for discussing Monero price action. Countless threads show how speculation has been part of the conversation, especially back in 2015 when the subreddit was filled with posts hyping Monero strictly based on price movements.
Price action has never been a forbidden topic in Monero’s history. It’s something the community has navigated thoughtfully without compromising the project’s values. It’s not something we must avoid like the plague.
Speculation Isn’t Inherently Bad
Speculation isn’t inherently bad—it’s how many of us, even within this community, first discovered our favorite projects. While extra attention won't magically turn the community into a bunch of moonboys screaming "WHEN LAMBO", it will attract individuals who are the right fit for this community and its values. Normies aren’t going to do the work it would take to ruin a community. The bar for engagement and culture has been solidified; Monero’s culture is a decade old and mature at this point.
Caring for Monero’s Future
I know we might not see eye to eye on this, but please understand that I care deeply about Monero and have for years. Everything I’m suggesting comes from a place of wanting the best for Monero and its long-term success. Monero has already demonstrated its resilience. Years of deplatforming have had an antifragile effect, making it stronger. We really could use more work on outreach to those already not already in the know. A memecoin from a community known for anime art isn't going to derail Monero's mission. If anything, it could amplify awareness and attract the kinds of users who will help it grow.
Why Ethereum? Isn't possible to do it on RandomX? Also, why limited supply? XMR ≠ BTC.
Phase 3: Monerochan NFT
Why the F will you sell JPEGs with the Monero mascot that I can download off of Google images for free?
NFTs = scam
Is there a guarantee this won't be a Pump-and-Dump? Also, why is this pinned?
P.S.: Ik that some NFTs are not just monkeys with different backgrounds, but selling a JPEG of some mascot who can be found on the internet is dumb.
Put the Monero.com wallet on a mobile device. In the bar at the bottom is the 'Buy' option.
@pound_heap @key_brolin Many of my favorite Patreon creators have XMR tip jars. Shoutout to Yannic Kilcher, who breaks down AI papers so us STEM-educated non-experts can keep up. Super awesome.
I have these plus some extra ones all in a wallet I'd be willing to part with for 5 XMR.
I have these plus some extra ones all in a wallet I'd be willing to part with (for the right price, at minimum probably ~5 XMR for the whole thing):
Thank you @[email protected]! Really appreciative of you giving your time and laying out your thoughts.
I'll address your points one by one below:
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Ignoring that, let’s compare this to the standard I don’t want you to know where I live strategy: a post office box. Let’s say a streamer or some famous YouTuber who doesn’t want people to actually have their home address.
Anybody can send to a post office box, they just need the address. It’s not entirely clear, but your service would require both the sender and receiver to have an account and relationship with you.
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Correct, and I see your point. I think the main draw here is that currently our service is ephemeral, while a PO box is persistent. We do plan to add some persistent options for users in the future, but that's a discussion for another time.
Additionally, once agreed upon (i.e., within reason), we are willing to meet the Receiver wherever; whether it is at their home, a public brick-and-mortar—we are able to execute the final leg of the delivery on the Receiver's terms.
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The privacy conscious person cannot take packages directly home from the post office, they need to be scanned for trackers, air tags etc, or opened in a neutral location. Your service would send directly to a destination address, so a single air tag would destroy all privacy, unless the destination was a PO box, but at which point what is the customer benefiting from?
- We have thought about this, and I think this can always be a potential issue for the Receiver under any circumstance. It's preferable to have an established thread of trust between the Sender and Receiver, and if there is not, I would think the Receiver would meet in a public place and do exactly what you mentioned.
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I think it’s an interesting service, but I don’t see it working. The closest I would see it to is virtual post mail, or other virtual mailbox services. They scan mail when it comes in, and then email or reship that to another destination up to you. That’s kind of the privacy arbitrage layer. Otherwise there’s the post office boxes for people who want to receive without giving away their location.
If two people want to have a transaction without any third party knowing, shipping it via the post is always difficult. Labels are scanned at every office. And I think your service will quickly have tracking requirements put onto it, quite frankly your early adopters will almost certainly only be sending illegal material.
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Agreed, there are many unknowns regarding the post, and I appreciate your candidness.
As for remailers (I think virtual mailbox services are kind of a different animal altogether as far as privacy), the main benefits that make us stand out are (1) the ephemeral/persistence use case as touched on earlier, (2) the existence of relays, and (3) ensuring both the Sender and Receiver's privacy and security throughout the entire process from points A to Z.
Thanks again for taking the time and providing valuable feedback!
Much appreciated for the feedback; anything illegal is against our terms of service:
Prohibited Items: Do not transport illegal, hazardous, or restricted items.
We are very much the same in regards to a VPN—routing, relaying, delivering, etc. packets from an origin to a destination.
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