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The Internet is Worse Than Ever – Now What?

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  • Crazy to think about these problems from a person's opinion who only uses kbin as social media and who lives in a country that (I think) is not as volatile or chaotic with politics!

    I wish you all good vibes and hugs!

  • That "solution" sounds a lot like the fediverse.....

    • Hehe. Awesome, eh?

      This pleases me! It tells me that Kurzgesagt may well be interested in fediverse and how it functions and might smile if they stumble upon us at some point!

    • Mmmm, idk. It seems like Kurzgesagt's proposing forums that are a lot more separated (as opposed to the fediverse, which is a bunch of highly connected instances). Like Reddit or The Site Formerly Known as Twitter, the fediverse is still one big pool of content; it's just that on the fediverse, you can interact with that pool from a wide variety of different servers.

  • Really interesting video! When I get the chance, I'll definitely be taking a look at the sources on this one — this seems like a topic I'd like to read more into.

    Nevertheless, I think the whole "Forums will fix this!" thing presented at the end of the video should be approached with some level of skepticism. I put my current opinion on the matter in this thread here.

    • Ideas can always be tested (as long as nobody's harmed on purpose) 😁
      If it works out, keep it and upgrade it even if you can. If it doesn't, either try to fix it or scrap it.

      Can't have the possibility to make life better if you didn't try out new things!

  • This was close the the idea of Hanlons razor

    The actual rule is apprently

    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

    But I don't like the stupidity part though they used "stupid" in this video as wel. I think "ignorance" is a bit more accurate.

    I also like the idea that amount we do not know is infinite thus we are all equally infinitly ignorant.

    I'm sure I'll get some flack for it here. but combining the two ideas means no one acts out of malice.

    Ignorance (or stupidity if you prefer) is pretty broad and subjective. People do terrible things because they are not aware of impact. Maybe they are not connecting the thing they are doing to the consequences. Maybe they are in a condition of illness or rage where they are not even aware of what they are doing.

    This doesn't mean we cant get mad at people. If some stanger kicks you in genitals. Our immediate reaction is not going to be empathy. We will ascribe malice to that action and act instinctively. That is fair even though the Stanger point of view was probably justified in their own mind. For some reason they felt kicking your genitals would improve things in some misguided way. They honestly belived this was a good thing at the time.

    Now apply to this to all who wrong you. Those directly and this indirectly doing you harm. Here's what it's done for me. I am quicker to ask questions and forgive when the situation calls for it. I communicate with those harming me indirectly to let them know they are doing this. It's actually helped. People don't want to harm you and if you tell them they are doing that , they may do better. I also try more to empathize when I hear somone has done somthing terrible. Remember empathy isn't forgiveness. But trying to figure put why they did the thing helps a little.

    There's no monsters out there just more people like you seeing the world through a differnt lens. Be good to them.

    • no one acts out of malice

      While I believe that most of the poor decisions ever made are under influences of bad mood/childhood/traumas/etc, I also believe that a human being is capable of being evil just for the sake/enjoyment of it.
      I just hope those cases are rare.

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      People do terrible things because they are not aware of impact.

      Some people (also) just don't care.

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      For some reason they felt kicking your genitals would improve things in some misguided way.

      Some folks have it wrong and try to lift their mood by putting other's mood down.
      They should rather learn more positive ways to unhinge, without causing any damage to others (speaking about the bad mood as a rant TO a person without blaming them, writing, drawing, screaming in the woods, playing violent games, hacking some wood with an axe etc)

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      I am quicker to ask questions and forgive when the situation calls for it.

      Sometimes it helps to tell, how you felt about something.
      They might not even know how you would feel about it!

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      I also try more to empathize when I hear somone has done somthing terrible.

      Me too. I usually want to hear both/all stories/points of views of an event that occured.

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      Makes me wonder - again - that how much wrong would someone need to do to me before I'd snap.
      I have a rather pacifist idea of myself! 😂

  • Its only 'worse' if you only visit like, 5 websites.

    The rest of the internet is thriving and vibing and living tits best life.

    edit: itt, people doing the thing.

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