/r/flashlight is on strike
/r/flashlight is on strike
Most people here are probably already aware of the situation on Reddit. This is a thread to discuss it here.
I appreciate your work getting the community over to Lemmy!
💯 Lemmy is 🔥. People need a place to go, and with subreddits closing down, this is the perfect time and place for folks to express themselves and have fun.
@Zak, agree with above. Thanks for being our awesome mod no matter what platform that may mean.
Personally, as much as I loved Reddit, I think there needs to be a move away from centralized platforms that can keep pulling this shit time after time. Hopefully there's a way to ensure the contents of r/flashlight are archived for posterity, but I don't think I'd be terribly inconvenienced if it was, for instance, permanently locked.
The community is the people, not the place, and I'm happy to be seeing familiar faces here already.
Has anyone tried archiving r/flashlight on archive.org yet?
Just a note of support from the soon to be ex mod of r/edc!
Welcome. I should probably put /c/[email protected] in the sidebar to encourage some intermingling.
Hi, everyone! I've really missed r/flashlight. This does feel something like home, though. Glad to be here!
IMO, it would be best to leave r/flashlight in restricted mode forever, so people can still see the useful info. Then officially announce the transfer to Lemmy (or kbin), and just rebuild the community.
At this point, completely opening r/flashlight again will make the community look weak, in the eyes of the R3ddit the company. In my honest opinion, of course.
I was of this opinion and voted restricted mode in the previous poll, but this time I think I would opt to leave it open.
Let the communities diverge. Hand the keys back and let the individuals reside wherever they choose. There is already a community here. Yes there is a wealth of information on Reddit, especially regarding build options and comparisons but why not ask the question again on Lemmy and get a more up-to-date, fresh opinion? If it’s modding or technical info BLF is the archive.
Just my two pence.
Thanks toadiesss. I guess we will all find out what happens, when the new poll ends.
Long time user of the sub, checking in on the new hot platform as promised in my last post there.
Not sure I quite understand the whole instances stuff yet, but it seems useable enough for my needs.
Looks like you have the basics figured out.
For those who are new to federation and want to see what it looks like, note that friftar's account is from
feddit.dewhile this community is fromlemmy.world.For those who are new to federation and want to see what it looks like, note that friftar’s account is from feddit.de while this community is from lemmy.world.
From what I've seen so far (less than 15mins here yet :-)) it looks like old FIDONet did in the 80s, but without the 9600 USRobotics modems exchanging bundles of messages all day :-)
Just reading the descriptions I found was really confusing, but actually seeing and playing around with it, it's decently intuitive.
Also, it's great to see some of the old names on here already! Hoping some more of the legends move over instead of just leaving the community entirely.
I dont quite understand how this works. I am now logged in to lemmy and can post, but I cannot post on feddit.de?
It's been 48hrs. Is r/flashlight coming back or has the mod team decided to make the blackout indefinite?
It's reopened as restricted with a poll about what to do next.
I think you might end up with an echo chamber over on Reddit, as people will likely stick to a single platform
I have now been on Lemmy for approximately 90 seconds! Layout feels an awful lot like Reddit, seems like it’ll be relatively easy to navigate. Are there apps that work well here, or is web-based the best way to go? I thought about downloading the Mastodon app and trying to access this community from there, but I honestly don’t have a solid understanding of the entire decentralized Fediverse thing.
Either way, thanks for creating a backup community Zak!
There's Mlem (iOS) and Jerboa (Android), but they're not very mature and the web interface seems like the way to go right now.
Appreciate it. I just got Mlem from TestFlight, will check it out in a bit. One of the most recent patch notes seems to imply that they hope they fixed the issue of accounts being deleted between logins, so I might hold off for juuuust a little bit.
for iOS, Mlem. Its very beta though
Nabbed it through TestFlight, will take a look at it later. Thanks!
Good stuff
Just got signed up.
Checking in! I initially signed up for kbin and just got a lemmy account too. There’s very little, flashlight related going on at kbin at the minute. I know the site’s struggling with traffic. The UI seems odd.
First impressions here it feels more like home!
Nice, I was waiting for some activity here!
Oh man! I was hoping this community would come over! Glad to have the flashlight community here!
I'm actually impressed with Reddit's management stupidity of not only shooting itself in the foot with that idiotic API fees thing, but then to actually sawing off the whole foot by sticking to it. I just posted a comment to that effect on an r/AskReddit topic to that effect: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1470boa/comment/jo2y3qm
I guess the so-called "management" doesn't care because it doesn't see losing users and communities as a problem: as long as they can make some profit in the short run, the long run be damned -- and even if they end up losing money in the short run too, the worst that can happen to said "management" is pulling the rip cord on their golden parachutes and going on to some other promising company to eff it up like they're doing with Reddit, rinse and repeat... "other people's money" (and interests) and all that... :-(
Thanks again @Zak for prodding us to move to Lemmy with your decision to black out r/flashlight and your awesome blog post -- initially I was pissed at the blackout, but now I support you 100%.
I strongly suspect Reddit shareholders want to IPO and cash out with no regard for what happens to the company afterward. That means pumping up metrics like app installs and ad impressions without regard to the long-term impact. They probably underestimated the speed and severity of the backlash.
Best way to punish these creeps is to shove their precious IPO to the curb -- hit 'em where it hurts. I for one haven't logged into Reddit since the SNAFU began, between IRC and BLF and Lemmy (in that order) I have all the fun I need, and Reddit be damned.
'Sup Lemmys. Just made an account here.
I actually hated the move from digg to reddit, mostly because I thought digg having post previews was so much better for readability and avoiding clickbait than reddit. But now Lemmy has them!
The interface is a bit of getting used to, but I'm already noticing lots of nice features.
Like, did you know you don't need a multi-billion dollar company in order to make a functional mobile site? Crazy!
Like, did you know you don’t need a multi-billion dollar company in order to make a functional mobile site? Crazy!
In my experience, it's the multibillion dollar companies that can't functionally do it, which is kind of the point...
May get buried in this little bit older post, but I did see this discussion going on over at r/modcoord.
https://reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/149apf9/campaigns_have_notched_slightly_lower_impression/
Seems to imply that even smaller subs being closed could be generating a noticeable impact on Reddit’s long-term advertising. Would suggest that these strikes will have an impact if they go on longer. I’m unsure honestly, trying to listen with an open mind but this at least seems like an actual attempt at looking at the situation as opposed to anyone saying ‘this is dumb, won’t do anything so there’s no point.’
That said, I’m still sympathetic to those who say they want the sub back. I do too! Locking out my favorite place on Reddit has been very obnoxious—but I voted to keep it closed and re-vote again with more info on Monday.
I really wish I'd used contest mode instead of a poll. Some people were upset and confused about the result, but I really do want to do whatever the majority of the community who's engaged enough to vote about it prefers.
I have my own opinions of course, but I'm trying to be realistic. I don't think shutting down communities permanently is a good approach, and completely moving a community to a new place never quite works. I don't plan to move away from Reddit entirely and will continue to participate as long as there's a friendly community there and old.reddit remains usable.
I do, however believe Lemmy is a better approach than Reddit going forward, and I will be de-emphasizing Reddit in some ways TBD.
Well, now the "reopen" supporters are complaining about contest mode... there's no pleasing bots. Ether way, whether the community splits or not, I'll be on both as long as Reddit is still usable and as long as I can find an apolitical Lemmy instance. (I do wish this community was founded on a better instance, but I'm still going to post here as long as I can find one that's welcoming.)
How would contest mode have improved the outcome? Right now this whole vote feels like a sham, as the mods didn't like how it was going so they skewed the results by adding two opinions together. If you don't want to be there anymore I encourage you to seek out someone else to take your spot instead of just restricting the community and walking away.
New poll is up. I'm going to unsticky this thread tomorrow because I'd rather talk about flashlights than Reddit.
Is there any plan to port some information over such as popular emitters / buying guides? Also, is it possible to have it quickly accessible in the sidebar (kind of mimicking the ‘About’ section of our Reddit?) it looks like posts can be favourited/saved. I’m still learning the ropes here so apologies if I’m missing it.
Is there any plan to port some information over such as popular emitters / buying guides?
Probably. One thing Lemmy doesn't have is a wiki, but some of those things work as regular posts.
There's a sidebar and it works much like it does on old.reddit.
The whole API thing is a non-issue to me personally other than the effect on moderators because I never used the apps. Tried Reddit's app once and found it pretty basic, almost crude, so stayed on the PC Browser side of Reddit.
I mainly use old.reddit.com on a PC, but this decision tells me that Reddit takes its users for granted, especially the volunteer moderators and content creators who actually make the site valuable enough to attract other visitors. Building communities on top of somebody else's for-profit walled garden was probably always a mistake.
Building communities on top of somebody else's for-profit walled garden was probably always a mistake.
This right here.
So far my experience with lemmy isn't that great. Lots of issues with the federation. Posts don't show up even after hours.
That's unfortunate. A lot of servers spun up in a big hurry and onboarded a whole bunch of users. I hope things smooth out over the next week or so.
My own experience has been pretty good so far, including federation. Kbin has been rougher, probably because kbin.social came under DDoS just as the Reddit blackout got underway.
This explains the sudden influx of flashlight posts on lemmy's "all" page
OK, I think I've found the instance I'll be using at least for now. Might eventually set one up - if there's an interest in an instance for the community, might open it to people from here who are looking for a Lemmy instance without political baggage.
Should be open soon if the sentiment of the subreddit is followed. Seems like mods/a vocal few are the only ones who want it to stay closed.
