I've seen multiple requests for nsfw lemmy communities like reddit has. I live in Germany, and I think you are required to verify that the users that see porn content are above the age of 18. Does Lemmy has or plan to have a feature for that?
Maybe this should be an issue on github?
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Yea, I have no idea why people are even attempting this nonsense. Perhaps they think that 'computers are magic', because it's quite clear that nobody would try to verify someone's age when it comes to posting images through snail-mail.
Of course if they wanted to give it a proper go, maybe someone could make a real age test:
If pornhub doesn't require an account or any verification then why should Lemmy, or just don't post nsfw on the main instance and post on a nsfw instance
Nope I meant real verification. Pornhub doesn't require it, because the server and the company are not stated in Germany. Imo all porn site should have real verification instead of the "I am 18 or older" popup, that literally does nothing to prevemt minors from seeing porn.
And what is with instances that federate with an nsfw instance. Its users are not asked for verification. I was just curious if ther will be a system that is doing something to prevent minors from seeing porn
The problem with this is that in most countries/most services, you cant legally have any accounts before you are a certain age like 13 or 16. Also, babies cant make accounts and people would just sell old ones.
Pornhub is proposing something that would be enforced on the browser/operating system level, and then the service providers would only need to specify the minimum age for a certain resource. While there are obvious limitations with this approach, it would work much better than the current approaches for distributed services.
That would be an interesting approach, but browsers are easily switched (to a "jailbroken" one) and I wouldn't trust windows with such information... Linux would be fine, but I guess the linux community would at least be torn on this one (though I might ofc be wrong)
like others said, there are downsides to every approach. Browser based would probably be the most reliable though, the bar for going around it would require a separate device or someone knowing how to install a completely different OS, under the age of 18, without their parents knowledge.
Which of course I knew how to do back in the days of Windows XP, but again that's a very high bar for most people.
I can see Lemmy taking an official approach of "We'll wait for that" because otherwise it's scanning IDs on one end of the spectrum and the other end is a button that says "Yeah I'm totally over 18"
If you're old enough to get around those controls, you're old enough to view porn, frankly. It's like a rite of passage that I went through 15 years ago... the parental controls were also much worse then, so it's arguably more effective now.
From what I understand it would work as other parental controls like on streaming services - i.e. parents of minors would configure the browser so it cannot open "inappropriate" content. The information wouldn't need to leave the device ever.
According to this wikipedia article it is mandated for pornography in Germany and the UK. Interestingly enough some alcohol companies in the US also try to verify their users age to ship them alcohol...
So yeah a pretty isolated problem I guess
TL;DR
Most people are against a age verification where you would input your personal ID or credit card.
Adding a popup would be nice though (if it doesn't already exist)
Thinking about all the included responsibilities, legislation, etc. gives me headache so I will not bother setting up a NSFW instance, from which thought the question originated... Thats propably why there isn't a good one right now
I could see value in having an option to the effect of "I'm the age of majority and I want to see adult content" in user profile options which is turned off by default, and if it's turned off then the UI would show a warning about the nature of the content and the user's current setting in place of posts or communities that have been marked as adult content.