peertube seems a little bit more solar and punk than thetube
@Elorageuse @poVoq - it is, but when you are spreading a message you have to go to where people are.
So animal exploitation is still part of Solarpunk, yes? Good luck with that so called "imagination" then.
I mean, animals are exploited by other animals all the time... The relationships can be mutually beneficial though or at least commensal (one species benefits while the other neither benefits nor is harmed)
There are wasps that mimic bees and take over their hives for their own breeding purposes.
Some prairie dogs use bird calls as a predator warning system, which the bird exploits to steal the prairie dog's food.
Cuckoo birds lay their eggs in the nests of other birds to be raised by them
Some ants farm aphids for their sugary secretions
People were able to live side by side with so many animals over millennia without destroying entire populations. So I'd say that humans using animals instead of machines can be quite solarpunk.
I know you mean well, but the first part of your comment is an appeal to nature - the assertion that because some thing is natural, that it is good, or at least unavoidable. In reality it sidesteps the question: is animal exploitation part of solarpunk?
I believe in harm reduction and imperfect solutions, so I would say yes, to a certain degree.
But I don't want to be all negative (doomerism is the antithesis of solarpunk after all). You raise some good examples, and for my part, if we can show that animal suffering under human care is less than if they were left totally free, then I would feel a lot less gross about it.
I haven't seen the video yet. Solarpunk imagines a future where machines serve humans and animals and not the other way around. Animals have a role of mutually beneficial collaboration but not of unilateral exploitation by humanity. Humanity finally becomes what it should be: a responsible custodian of planet Earth and understands and studies the needs and wants of all beings that live on it.
"animals are exploited by other animals all the time" and animals rape each other all the time .... Mot stupid things ever said ....
