The outline approach is great for quick note contributions without worrying about the look of the notes you're trying to capture. Writing journal entries or pages is so seamless, and linking is so easy. Block references are also a powerful addition.
The mobile version is lacking compared to say obsidian, but I've found it good as I'm not focused on propping up the application, rather focusing on my content/notes.
knowledge management refers to how to organize, store, retrieve, and use information.
In the context of personal knowledge management using tools like Logseq, the definition could be something like this:
Personal Knowledge Management (PKM) is the practice of capturing, organizing, and making sense of one's own observations, ideas, and experiences to understand and share knowledge. It's about creating a system that allows you to capture thoughts and ideas easily, make connections between different pieces of information, and retrieve and use this knowledge effectively.
For example, if you're learning a new topic, you might read a variety of sources and take notes in Logseq. Over time, you'd review and refine these notes, connecting new insights to existing ones, creating a rich, interconnected knowledge base.
So is it like a cross between journaling and citation management software? I'm trying to figure out what proponents are getting out of this above what I get from just bookmarking interesting sites.
The the Wikipedia article on personal knowledge management is a little dense, but basically it's a way to keep track of everything you learn or consume and link them together to develop new ideas or insights. Sometimes people will call it a second or digital brain. There's a lot of different ways to do it, and recently there's been a lot of software like Logseq, Obsidian, and Notion, that facilitates linking everything together and keeping it organized using [[hyperlinks]] and #tags among other things.
I won't bother trying it out if it forces me to use chromium
It seems that your browser doesn't support the new native filesystem API, please use any Chromium 86+ based browser like Chrome, Vivaldi, Edge, etc. Notice that the API doesn't support mobile browsers at the moment.
The dev team is working on replacing the filesystem API with another protocol supported by Firefox. That page is just a demo; you only need the support if you want to save your changes to the demo. You can try the desktop app via flathub.
I love Logseq! When I first started using it, I was categorizing all my notes as I was slowly moving over my knowledge base. And over time, I've switched over to using the Journal more and more! It's extremely well done.
Love Logseq for a lot of reasons, but their PDF annotator is really a gamechanger. I can open a PDF, mark it up, copy the highlighted reference to my notes, and then when I review my notes just by clicking the copied reference I can jump to that section of the PDF. Awesome.
The journal is the biggest reason I move from Obsidian to using Logseq regularly. There is so much less friction just going to journal and writing ideas rather then figuring out where to add the note too before typing.
Currently use Standard Notes to dump, in a semi-organized way, kind of everything from jottings to links, recipes, lists, ad hoc wiki (e.g. for how to use kbin).
Is Logseq, or Obsidian, a step further from this? Say, with greater ways to interact with what I collect?
I don't use standard notes, but from what I know, the base idea is similar, but they really differ. It's hard to explain. It's the same as asking what the difference is between Notepad++ and Notepad since both can edit text.
I really recommend downloading logseq and giving it a shot, the best way to see what it can do.
I'd say Logseq and Obsidian go a step further compared to standard notes. They each do so in a slightly different way though. So probably worth trying both. I prefer Obsidian, but Logseq is also great.
This seems really neat, been looking for something better than Memos. Problem I have with Logseq from a quick look is it doesn't seem to be web-only? Most features require a client app, and the web version seems to require use of your local file system?
My use case is to self host a 100% web based notes app on my local network, where everything is stored on the server and I can just open it up on any of my devices at home and not care/worry about syncing. Basically what Memos is, just that Memos is a bit lacking in functionality, but I use it because the core product behaves the way I expect.
Correct me if I'm wrong because I'd much rather use this, but so far the client/server relation and storage methodology are deal breakers for me.
Yes I know, but the way the server works and the way it manages files might not be suitable for my needs based on the info I found. Self hosting is just one part of the equation.
its lack of protocol support from firefox end. Firefox doesn't support the FS API. The logseq team plans to migrate to a different protocol that is supported by FF OPFS
Both are pretty versatile and make use of local markdown files. Logseq is more ouliner/bulleted note focused, while Obsidian is paragraph first (but with plugins for either you can really modify this quite a bit). Another difference is Obsidian organizes things into folders, while Logseq's organization is flatter and more reliant on tags and hyperlinks to connect things (although you can nest pages, for instance having pages like this: pets, pets/cats, pets/dogs). Obsidian is more stable with a larger plugin ecosystem, but Logseq is being very rapidly developed and the dev team is super responsive.
Finally, Logseq is open source, while Obsidian is not. Their monetization models are pretty similar too, with the free version of both being really generous and limited features like Logseq/Obsidian-native Sync being available for a $5 monthly subscription. I regularly use both and encourage you to check them both out and explore what works for you.
Thank you. Added the demo link to the OP. I used joplin before moving to logseq. Couldn't get a good workflow going, and I hated having to decide where to store information. Logseq journal solved that issue for me.
How does it solve that issue for you? I use Joplin, and it's useful, but I wouldn't say it's a perfect fit. Logseq seems like it has a good bit more time investment before it's useable, especially if you want it to work better than, say, Joplin.
My main beef with apps like this is that they basically say 'we can do everything', and leave you to slog through hours of documentation and use case examples to see if it's a good fit. And that's totally fine, except I don't have that kind of time to dedicate to one single app before I decide if it's a good fit.
I wish they'd answer the question 'why is this software better than Joplin or a notebook or stack of text files' in bold text right on the front page, because that's the most relevant piece of information for most people.
Another alternative, admittedly not open-source, is Recollectr (disclaimer: built by me.)
Recollectr was inspired by prior projects like Notational Velocity but aims to be a lot more - omnibox, markdown support, reminders; and for paid users: revisions, note-linking, and sync. I built it because I felt like other note-taking apps just weren't fast enough and they broke my concentration.
It's quite late here but I'd be happy to answer any questions tomorrow!
I was just checking out the site on my iPad. Only the top image loads and the rest are white boxes. I disabled all content blockers and reloaded but the problem persisted. It might still be a local problem, but now you have a heads-up that something MIGHT be wrong.
There is a Jira plugin but I haven't used it. The plugin system is good but the project is still small. Definitely would be nice if there is more integrations with professional tools.