Privacy @lemmy.world Possibly linux @lemmy.zip 4d ago

I finally moved off of Mull

It actually was pretty easy. All I did was install Fennec and then tweak a few settings.

I switched the browsing protection to strict
I installed ublock origin
I went to about:config and enabled resist fingerprinting

I ran some fingerprinting tests and my slightly modified Fennec performs about the same as Mull

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Fennec worries me a little because the project failed to deliver crucial security updates for several weeks, which ironically caused people to hop to Mull.

https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild/-/issues/86

Browsers are really in a state right now.
- Valid point.
- This is exactly why I moved to mull. Now I'm moving back lmao
- I plan on just monitoring the security trackers
Is there a reason to move off of mull? I'm not caught up
- There is. As per the latest announcement from DivestOS:
  
  DivestOS and its apps will not receive any further updates.
  
  Sadly, that means that there is basically no privacy-respecting Firefox-based Android web browser as of now which works out-of-the-box.
  
  There is IronFox, a Mull fork, but it remains to be seen whether they are trustworthy and can keep up with the updates. In the meantime, a hardened Fennec is probably the best we can do.
  
  Ah shit. This is sad
- It isn't going to get any more updates
  
  Damn. Really disappointing
what's wrong with mull i didn't get the memo
- It is no longer being maintained which means no security updates
- Dev is no longer maintaining along with DivestOS.
  
  What does that means?
Can we please get an Arkenfox-like for mobile? I LOVE Librewolf and I just wish they would make a mobile version. Or if Mullvad Browser had a mobile version.
- I haven't moved from Mull yet, but there's IronFox which is a Mull fork
  
  Any idea if they'll be getting a repo on F-Droid soon?
  
  Ironfox looks like a potential alternative, thanks.
I spent the whole day figuring this out, i did the same as you with fennec and hardening. Took some inspiration from arkenfox and betterfox and thats about it.

Edit: its sad, but such is life i guess. I loved mull.
- Mull you will be missed
Did the same thing as a non mull user installed a fennec fork tho (Iceraven)
- No warranties or guarantees of security or updates or even stability!
  
  Yeah that is not confidence inspiring. I don't need it to be perfect but a web browser needs to focus on security instead of just winging it.
  
  Even that warning I never really faced issues with the browser(but still a concern).
- I installed IceRaven as well
Where are you downloading Fennec?

I see F-droid has a certain version available, is this the one you use?

"Fennec F-Droid is based on the latest Mozilla Firefox release. It has proprietary bits and telemetry removed, but still connects to various Mozilla services that can track users."
- F-droid
  
  I don't think the telemetry us that big of deal but I also have no idea how to turn it off.
  
  They're already off. The Fennec builds on F-Droid apparently don't even have the option to turn telemetry on -- it's not in the build.
  
  Go to about:telemetry in the URL bar and it should say that telemetry upload is disabled.
I'd like to use a browser based on Gecko but they're far behind than Chromium based browsers in matter of security unfortunately
- In terms of number of CVEs Firefox is better. The real danger of mobile Firefox is that it doesn't implement sandboxing which means that a security vulnerability can be very bad. However, Android sandboxes apps already so the chances of long term impact are low.
  
  I would love to see Mozilla implement a proper security sandboxing in mobile Firefox. Instead we get AI and ads. I can't use Chromium since it no longer properly supports Mv2
  
  Would be nice if we have Librewolf for Android

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