What's with the consistent amount of "American Democracy is dead" rhetoric I've been seeing lately? It's not like Trump is president yet. And sure, Biden isn't going to make too much impact as a lame duck, but even after Trump takes office again, there's a lot he can do, and a whole lot more he won't be able to. The power is still in the hands of the people, especially at the local level. America's democracy isn't dead, and saying anything of the sort is obeying in advance.
A key component of 2016-2020 was Trump was surrounded by people who wouldnât, including generals who wouldnât entertain his talk of maybe using nukes. Itâs not that he couldnât in 2016-2020, itâs that he was surrounded by people who wouldnât and he didnât know how himself.
Thatâs no longer the case. And the people around him have studied up on how.
One of his first big speeches post win this week, claiming to be about defending 1A, he states heâs going to use/mobilize âmy Department of Justiceâ to prosecute anyone trying to enforce the Hatch Act. The Hatch Act is the thing that keeps polling locations safe and neutral. The Hatch Act prevents the threatening of voters in or within 100yds of polling locations, as well as making the buying of votes illegal. That latter part keeps voting free.
Think about the possibilities. Think hard. In fact, if youâre a creative type, sit down and write a short story about what that could look like on the present political climate.
Heâs reading a script, the entire speech lacks his usual meandering bullshit. Itâs cagey. He totally didnât write it. The only piece that smells like trump is the piece about no longer being able to ban social media accounts without a court order, probably because thatâs personal for him.
And remember. SCOTUS basically said he can do anything while President without fear of prosecution. Itâs simply that Biden is unwilling to go there that we havenât seen what that looks like yet.
I donât read hard left media for this info. I listen to direct talk, from Trump, from his people, and listen to/read interviews with individuals in or very close to the 2016-2020 term. I then find a historian or lawyer who can add nuance. I then read the hive mind of We The People and other countries for more perspective.
Have you seen Project 2025, Trump's unofficial but kind of official election plan? Republicans have all three branches of government now. They would have to willingly choose to not follow their own proposed plan, and there's no reason to do that. So, logically, they will execute it - and that's it. The end of US democracy.
Go read it or summaries of it if you think it's hyperbole.
If you tell people now that Democracy is dead, they don't bother fighting the real fight, if and when push comes to shove.
Dems said this election is the end of Democracy, but still put an uninspiring right candidate. They said Trump is the fascist danger to all the US stands for. But having him and his crownies dismantled by getting criminal charges on them seemed to go too far. When grassroots movements came up and demanded change instead of embracing them, taking them seriously and talking with them properly, they were shunned and pushed down.
Now the greatest danger to corporate America are people to start organizing and taking to the streets. So hammer down the defeatist message, so the people suck up to their corporate overlords. The corporate overlords who won yet another election as both candidates represented their class interests.
I just donât see how that broken down old man who says theyâre eating the cats and dogs is inspiring to anyone. But then I donât vote on inertia.
Because Trump voters are poorly educated, and frankly, stupid.
You heard something about eating cats and dogs, they heard someone telling them that Those people they don't like are doing horrible things, and he will make things even with Those people.
Literally a dog whistle, but you have to be a blithering moron to understand it, because anyone who isn't just hears a senile old dumbass saying stupid shit.
One of my parents, not Trumpers in spite of age, thinks Vance is trolling him to 25th him later. Either way, that tired, not looking too good medically, old man isnât likely for long going forward. I think this is a Vance, Heritage, Musk game. Game in full essence of the word where Musk is concerned. That egomaniacal child of Apartheid is even playing with Putin. Evidence even of thwarting Ukraine insofar as he is able.
I'm not sure I buy that: Trump is a cult, and his cultists are going to have an absolute riotous fit if someone tries to depose him.
Short of him dying or doing something you just can't ignore - like, say, he eats shit out of his diaper on national tv - he's not going anywhere.
Vance isn't smart enough to 6D chess his way into the presidency without his nominal constituency rioting over it, so I'm doubtful that's his play.
He's probably just going to pull the last-guy-in-the-room thing, since that's the only person Trump listens to or remembers anyway which means you keep the cultists happy AND you get the figurehead to do what you want anyways without the mess.
I donât either for all the reasons you stated. Trevor Noah was talking about a de facto African dictator who was in name only while other people ran the show.
I think itâll be like that. They canât openly push him out or there will be cult members storming the capital again, granted, the level of permissiveness that occurred the first time wonât happen while this admin is their target. No, theyâll let Trump bumble about while working their own angles. And Trump is such an easily manipulated dipshit he probably wonât even realize it.
Thatâs not going to happen here. Am I the only one who watched Trumps speech claiming to be about 1A? He is coming for social media day 1, to reinforce Elon Musk, not only on Twitter, but all other large social media platforms (he doesnât name FB and Reddit, but heâs talking about FB and Reddit, maybe as far down as Lemmy, BlueSky & Mastadon too, idk).
He says heâs going to mobilize âmy Department of Justiceâ to do it.
He specifically says: making account removal/banning only possible via court order, removing moderation, and removing any labels of misinformation or disinformation.
Heâs already threatening YouTube with removal of section 230, if they moderate content.
Itâs a YouTube video of his speech. Asmongold has a reaction video as do other people who make their living on YouTube, but the shortest take is the original posted by that dipshit RFK Jr. 6min. Only 234k views, probably because itâs buried on RFK Jrs bullshit. Itâs the vid with the giant green crayon all caps subtitles. Idk why they captioned it that way, but, they did.
If I was being honest I'd add "literally anyone whos firm has any connections to a NATO government" but then I'd be called a consoiracy theorist. But as for GCC, that's a more direct threat to lives of dissidents.
yeah I don't think a usa based platform is really "long gaming" the fee speech problem. Bluesky now shifting to monetization plans. Its a matter of time until some rich dildo buys it up. If were lucky it will be mark cuban or somebody buts its still grim prospects.