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This will keep happening as long as the left treats any acknowledgement of mens issues as a moral failing
What left is doing that?
How? By refusing to accept that female on male abuse is a thing. Go find a mainstream leftist place and bring it up. See what happens
That's truly a joke.
It is my current understanding, from various experiences - and I want to state that I publicly engage with men and women who've had violent experiences in various ways on a regular basis - that men are FAR more likely to be supported when facing domestic violence by the left, the very same woke/feminist left.
The right? They don't give a flying f*ck. As always. The incels and their variants? They don't care. They're in a political crusade against social justice.
So where are the men's shelters? Why is female on male abuse considered funny? And I don't care what conservatives think
Who considers female on male abuse funny? I have yet too see any feminist, any worker in a shelter, any of those, find any kind of domestic violence funny.
I'm not talking about Xitter pen keyboard heroes here. I mean real people.
Who's laughing at violence against men?
Taters, conservatives, and their kind, high representatives of the most toxic masculinity.
You clearly can't begin to fathom what's it's like for people who experienced violence and domestic violence. I've never seen a female survivor not listening to a male survivor. I've never seen a left wing feminist working with female survivors not taking a male survivor seriously.
Actually, from my experience, which, I think, is significant at least in my country and generation, they're literally the ONLY ONES who take them seriously (except some of their close ones, friends and family, of course - not all will, but some may).
Look through this thread. Look at the people bitching about the comic. But please keep telling me how much kinder and better women are.
I've never seen a female survivor not listening to a male survivor.
Ime irl, I'd agree with this. Victims usually empathise with me (also victim) and I do with them.
I've never seen a left wing feminist working with female survivors not taking a male survivor seriously.
I absolutely have. I mean there's one in this thread first off, but since you said "no onlinesies" as if the people typing on those keyboards aren't real, many feminists I've met IRL actively disdain men and call those that speak about their issues "MRA activists" as a synonym for incel, many say things like "all men" or "not all men but always a man" which lumps me in with the abusers and pretends my rapists are victims. Hell in my area, women can't be charged with rape because it requires penetration to fit the legal definition, that certainly isn't "taking male survivors seriously," and is the left talking about that at all? No, I am the only one speaking out about it, most people around here don't even know that, go figure.
Of course yes men don't take us seriously either, but from my experience only victims care about other victims and there certainly are avowed feminists that not only don't take me seriously but actively dislike me for speaking about my abuse.
We’re in one right now and that isn’t happening.
Whew that was quick https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/14541652
Lemmy isn't mainstream. Most people, even the terminally online don't know it exists
I'm skeptical that there exists any leftist mainstream place that isn't actually a right-wing place disguised as leftist.
I'm also skeptical that all of those loud but irrational voices are genuine. Especially given Russia's MO for online trolling where they push both sides of any issue to extremes to sow division. Not to say that I believe everyone on the left is rational and reasonable. But why would the tone be so different between "mainstream" and "non-mainstream" left places if the position you're talking about is as ubiquitous to the left as you claim it is?
Looking at how many people are angry about this ki da proves your point.
It's not a "thing" compared to male on female abuse which is significantly more pervasive and takes up more attention. Its obviously a thing in that it happens. Most women would rather focus on reducing male violence which typically will benefit male survivors. Just like how structures that help women sexual assault survivors also tend to help the few male survivors and so we don't per se need to explicitly help the smaller male demographic, since they are included and the larger female demographic still hasn't been served either.
We just don't care to hear you sealion about these abuse victims when you do nothing for EITHER demographic and instead use male victims to deny help for women and thus men. It's not about giving men help, it's about being a vulnerable narcissist and making women a bad guy.
This shit right here is what I am talking about.
Lol
You are a cancer to liberal causes.
Good, I'm not a fucking liberal. I'm a socialist.
You are a problematic man.
I dont think he is problematic .it seem pretty correct that the left doesn't offer solution to men actually.
I've seen some good folks in the past few years. Like That Dang Dad and F.D Signifier. But I'm just on YouTube. I'm sure I miss lots of hate.
F.D is great actually. Need more like him.