Harris' lead over Trump narrows to 46% vs 43%, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds
Harris' lead over Trump narrows to 46% vs 43%, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds
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If you're wondering why her, her campaign, and DNC leadership keep pretending it's a coincidence the more conservative she becomes the worse she polls...
It's because they're all making a lot of money from donors in return for all her conservative shifts.
Presidential campaigns "cost" over a billion dollars now. That's a lot of fat to trim off for a lot of people.
And with the DNC valuing donation bundlers over any other skill, it's seems like it should be pretty obvious they care more about grifting money than getting Harris elected.
Anyone that says it takes over a billion dollars to beat trump shouldn't be running a campaign for local dog catcher. But they'll never stop trying to get more money. Instead of just trying to get more votes.
The people running the party have different goals than the voters in the party
Straight from the article:
Respondents rated the economy as the top issue facing the country, and some 44% said Trump had the better approach on addressing the "cost of living," compared to 38% who picked Harris. Among a range of economic issues the next president should address, some 70% of respondents said the cost of living would be the most important, with only tiny shares picking the job market, taxes or "leaving me better off financially." Trump had more support than Harris in each of those areas as well, although voters by a margin of 42% to 35% thought Harris was the better candidate to address the gap between wealthy and average Americans. Trump appeared buoyed by widespread concerns over immigration, currently at its highest level in America in over a century. Some 53% of voters in the poll said they agreed with a statement that "immigrants who are in the country illegally are a danger to public safety," compared to 41% who disagreed. Voters had been more closely divided on the question in a May Reuters/Ipsos poll, when 45% agreed and 46% disagreed.
I have a dream that one day we will be permitted to read and digest one of these articles without you feeling the compulsive need to preempt that to tell us what you think we're supposed to believe, and to steer us into one of your fever dreams about some other tangentially-related topic. Wouldn't that be lovely.
Some 53% of voters in the poll said they agreed with a statement that “immigrants who are in the country illegally are a danger to public safety,” compared to 41% who disagreed. Voters had been more closely divided on the question in a May Reuters/Ipsos poll, when 45% agreed and 46% disagreed.
Ahhh good to know some things never change. Good old hateful racist assholes Americans being asshole Americans. I hate living here with these fucking ghouls. The only dangerous people are actual American citizens...
That's certainly one way to look at it, and around here you'll find a lot of folks are eager to pat you on the back for embracing that kind of lazy, myopic conclusion. There is, however, much more to the story:
https://www.paschal-law.com/blog/the-rise-of-anti-immigrant-sentiment-around-the-world/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352250X22001531
Given that the trend we're seeing is also prevalent in most western democracies, we're left with two distinct possibilities:
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Every western democracy is half-full of racist assholes.
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There's something going on that's more nuanced than naked racial animus.
Which seems more likely seems to depend a great deal on direct, lived experience, as well as education and age. It also seems to depend on the health of the broader economy. Unfortunately, pointing those factors out doesn't tend to elicit as many upvotes as claiming everyone's a flaming, degenerate racist.
Thank you for those links and insightful take. I had wondered about this myself - with your take I can see a way forward now.
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That 53% of voters includes ever trump voter in the country.
So if it's every trump supporter, it's only 10% of people who aren't voting R no matter.
Republicans pander to the majority of their base. And Dems also pander to the Republican base.
It's one of the biggest and most obvious problems with our political system. When both parties keep moving right, it's obviously going to result in the country overall moving to the right.
It's really not complicated, but some people love to misrepresent it.
the Democratic chase for the centrist unicorn stuffs us all into a very cramped and increasingly hot basket.
That 53% of voters includes ever trump voter in the country
Perhaps not every single last one, but good point overall.
So if it’s every trump supporter,
I would need more evidence to support the rest of this. But yeah we at least can get a better handle by filtering out those supporters - the remaining percentage is likely to be much smaller.
Republicans pander to the majority of their base. And Dems also pander to the Republican base.
Actually this is not true. AOC for example, endorses Harris (as per https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cj4xegj1jq2o ) but is definitely more liberal than Harris and not afraid to state it (see https://qz.com/aoc-mark-cuban-kamala-harris-ftc-lina-khan-billionaire-1851669012 )
Harris is in a tough spot to win the election but wait another generation or decade and I have a feeling that things are going to look very different.
Which is why we need to be smart.
We need to cancel the electoral votes of the South, until they sort their shit out, call it Reconstruction 2.0.
We have to fix this cancer on our nation if we ever hope to function again, and the longer we push it off, the worse the metastasis gets.
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90% sure we've went over this before...
X% of voters includes Republicans that will never vote D under any circumstances
To motivate people who will vote D. We need to focus on what they want.
Did it work this time?
X% of voters includes Republicans that will never vote D under any circumstances
Agreed, but..
To motivate people who will vote D. We need to focus on what they want.
This does include some moderate Republicans, think Liz Cheney. With the GOP turning the way it has - practically being a personality cult for one guy now, it makes sense that those folks who got left out would try to find a home with the Dems - and in the short term that alliance means a better chance at securing the White House.
I get the point you are trying to make. But you don't seem to understand mine. And keep in mind that this isn't the first time I've tried to explain this to you.
Speak up, laddy. We didn't hear you the first 8,900 times.
Do you want to just insult people?
Or are you willing to abide by this subs rules and have a reasonable discussion?
His comment was no more insulting than yours, IMHO.
The people running the party have different goals than the voters in the party
I do recall this in being a factor, it was thought that the GOP couldn't prevent that guy from winning the nomination in 2016 while the DNC had the power to annoint Clinton over Sanders.
Presidential campaigns “cost” over a billion dollars now.
Yes. Citizens United. At least the DNC is able to match the GOP here though.
And with the DNC valuing donation bundlers over any other skill, it’s seems like it should be pretty obvious they care more about grifting money than getting Harris elected.
That's not obvious at all. Alternative view: they're just trying to outspend the GOP in the hopes that this get Harris elected.
The people running the party have different goals than the voters in the party
Again, not at all obvious.
Anyone that says it takes over a billion dollars to beat shouldn’t be running a campaign for local dog catcher.
Of course that's not it! The question is, if the GOP has a billion dollar lead over Harris, can the GOP prevail over Harris?
Maybe not, but, why take that chance?
But they’ll never stop trying to get more money. Instead of just trying to get more votes.
I mean they're trying to use the money to spread outreach and engagement (which hopefully turns into legitimate votes for Harris). I understand the frustration with the overall system but ultimately this is all for the goal of getting more to turn out for Harris.