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Unironically should be legal. I think pregnant women should be able to claim child benefit, too.
According to the article linked by another commenter, it literally is.
She was ticketed, but it was then dismissed in court, because she was right.
Based. Unborn people are still people.
According to the law in texas, at least.
Should be worldwide. Common sense.
Body autonomy requires consciousness.
Therefore anybody younger than about a year old is fair game.
Hardly. Infanticide being illegal doesn't compromise the body autonomy of anyone, but abortion being illegal, does.
Foetus are pretty conscious. They kick about in the womb among other things. Saw an ultrasound of an abortion and the poor thing was trying to resist ☹️
By your logic, any moving animal is conscious and aware?
Yes? Animals are conscious and aware of their surroundings
You remember being in the womb then? Or being a sperm? Those move, you know.
Bacteria move, but I don't think you can argue they have minds capable of suffering. Your body would be doing a lot of murder every second of every day in that case. What about insects? Do you consider ants and mosquitos conscious? Should they be protected by animal rights laws?
For a lot of the duration of a pregnancy, a fetus is not composed of enough cells to be much different.
The body autonomy, let alone the health of a woman should not be compromised to "protect" a life that isn't a life yet.
I don't remember being 1 or 2 years old. You saying it's okay to murder me as long as I don't remember it when I'm older or something? 🤣
The difference between a foetus and bacteria or ants, is that a foetus is human. Bacteria and ants aren't. I cannot believe we've stooped to this level of immorality.
I call bullshit.
Actually it's common sense that they're not.
And those unborn people should be able to be killed if the mother doesn't want them. As long as they require her body to stay alive.
As nobody should be able to force what an other person does with the things in their body.
Definitely think you should be able to claim fetuses on taxes if you are pregnant pregnant more than half the year.
Yes
Aw but that sucks if you get pregnant in August or September
I had thought about that, but also thought about how that would be spun by conservative pundits.
Clearly, women will get pregnant once a year for the tax benefits of having a child, and then abort it.
Does this apply further, though? If a car is registered for 4 passengers, would a fetus count towards that total?
Are cars registered for passenger numbers?
Maybe it's not a US-thing? Cars in Norway have a registered numbers of seats specified in the car's registration, so I just assumed this was a general thing.
I don't live in the US. Although if it is registered seats, the seat is inside the mother, who is the vehicle for the baby, not the car