Dobbs had the opposite effect conservatives intended
Dobbs had the opposite effect conservatives intended
People are seeking abortions more than ever.
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Sorry, do you actually think conservative politicians legitimately care about abortions? A few conservative looneys might be true believers but this is just an issue they kick around for political points.
They absolutely do. Our birth rate has been in a steady decline since 2007, and is well below the 1960s. Racists are terrified of losing to “the great replacement,” but the wealthy still need low wage workers. Unwanted American children are the unhinged solution to both.
That indicates a desire to boost population growth, not necessarily an ethical objection to abortion - I do think you're absolutely correct about a fair portion of those politicians and donors but there's still a large portion that I think are just using the movement for points.
There would also be more efficient solutions to this problem if that was their primary concern - we'd like see more focused attacks on Loving vs. Virginia if it was specifically racially motivated (rather than "American culture" motivated)... and even then I think the best approach would just be super-charging child tax credits and potentially introducing childless tax penalties.
I think my original statement was overly simplified, though.
Or we could simply reform immigration and embrace the notion that America isn’t a white Christian nation.
That'd be what we'd do if we were sensible - to be clear I don't endorse any of that racist bullshit I was just explaining that even with racial or cultural weird ideas there are better options than abortion control.
There’s no need to meet in the middle. It’s an effective solution to birth rate decline and mass migration. People just need to accept that with the exception of Native Americans, we’re a nation of foreigners.
Again - I'm not meeting in the middle, I'm explaining how dumb they are.
No it fucking isn't. Even by their own fucked up logic, even if it was to work as their dream scenario of forcing all women to carry to term the people that will end up having more children will still be the minorities.
It’s the Republicans’ solution to their problems. Democrats obviously prefer immigration reform as the sane solution to birth decline. I’m just pointing out their motivations, because we all know they’re not all following some holy mission.
Why wouldn't they just keep pretending to give a shit instead of actually stacking the court and putting a manufactured case up? They did the thing. They caught the car. Now they're dealing with the fallout.
Stacking the supreme court has benefits far beyond any single issue.
But it also gave the game away. There's more scrutiny than ever on the court, and Republicans have gotten thrashed in elections for a few years now.
All it takes is one bad election before we're in a fascist theocracy. They don't care if they've given the game away because they've changed the rules so they actually have a good chance at winning.
Thinking that the GOP is on its way out is a very dangerous way to view things.
I hate that you’re right
I couldn't really tell you but one thing you've got to remember is that politicians can be incredibly stupid.
It's genuinely about giving the ruling class wage slaves in the future. They hated seeing the plummeting birth rates. That's always been the reason. These politician's owners and donors have no need for petty ethics or morals (of any kind). There is always a material, political, class reason for these decisions