Thank You Everyone For Rejecting The Fascists/Bigots At The Door
Thank You Everyone For Rejecting The Fascists/Bigots At The Door
After years of reddit/twitter/facebook propping up fascism/bigotry with algorithms & bots I'm honestly surprised and relieved to be in an online space that clearly rejects their ideology.
They can have reddit/facebook/twitter. AFAIC the only way to reach some of these people is to leave them alone long enough to realize on their own.
Lemmy.world admins are doing an amazing job dealing with everything. Their recent decision to defederate from exploding heads (or whatever its called) really goes to show that they're in it for the right reasons.
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We aren't quite out of the woods yet.
/c/ConservativesOnly /c/Maga/c/conservative and/c/prolifeare still around here on lemmyworld and spreading bullshit.Edit: some were removed after all
Every one of those but /c/conservative are deleted.
Look the mod/admin tools are limited and we do or best to take care of these things asap but we also don't want to go nuclear on something without checking it out. /c/conservativesonly and /c/maga had their mods removed a while ago and were up for grabs. that's why we added the LW_NewModWanted to those communities and asked for new mods. Surprisingly nobody here was interested so now we deleted them completely. They can be recreated on other instances.
Didn't know about that /c/prolife one until now though. But it's gone
First, thank you.
Second, you guys are ON TOP OF IT!!! Excellent work, you guys are amazing!
Third,
Surprisingly nobody here was interested so now we deleted them completely
HAHHAHAHAH so you saw my comment???
"FYI nobody is interested go back to reddit"
Excellent work. Thank you!
c/ConservativesOnly and c/Maga were removed due to lack of moderation and because the previous moderator(s) were banned.
Holy shit... either that was in the last 10 hours or my lemmy was lagging.
Props to the admins/mods!
NGL part of me wanted the banned mod (OptionHome I think) to stay and be our community laughing stock.
He'll always be, in our hearts
True but have you looked at the vote scores in those communities?
On reddit they were cesspools but on lemmy they're laughing stocks. The only posts they can get above zero are antithetical ones pointing out the criminality and incompetence of trump/republicans.
If the internet existed in Germany in the 1930's, I wouldn't take much solace in the fact that the fascists are getting downvoted. They're getting into power and every day they spread more and more dehuminization and hate.
On reddit they became cesspools because the admins refused to do anything about their fascism, so I don't have a lot of trust for the admins of lemmy.
Would you be happier if it was only upvotes? I don't follow your logic at all.
I just don't want fascism/bigotry to be allowed on this instance to begin with.
I get the inclination to want admins to ban them... but not only is that unnecessary (at this point in time!) it's also a far, far weaker rebuke than the entire community refusing to let them trend.
We saw how on reddit, banning subs simply resulted in them making new ones.
At least on lemmy there is visible evidence that no matter what they call their community it will be rejected by the lemmy community as a whole.
At least here's hoping!
Agreed. I have faith that a level headed discussion is usually enough to overcome most hatred
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Thanks!
Fascism = political viewpoint that I disagree with
No, fascism is from the side that pushes their Christian agenda onto people. Decides how they should live their life if they are born with the wrong plumbing, decides if a women should complete her pregnancy even at the risk of her own life and decides what books are allowed at school.
Never said that
I checked those out out of morbid curiosity and saw them mostly being trolled by lefties/libs. Warmed my heart.
I'd like to believe that such communities could be allowed to exist as long as they weren't allowed to become "safe spaces" for misinformation the way the ones on Reddit were (i.e. if everybody defederated with any ones that did). Allowing those sorts of people to post but denying them the ability to stop others from debunking their claims could be more effective than shoving them off into dark corners where they can radicalize themselves undisturbed.
I'm not sure whether I do believe that, but I'd like to.
Genuine question: are you just trying to censor any viewpoint that you disagree with? Because it sure as shit seems like you guys are trying to make this into another left-wing circlejerk where anything even remotely right wing is immediately removed regardless of how level-headed or civil it’s presented.
are you just trying to censor any viewpoint that you disagree with?
Nope. I just don't like fascists/bigots.
Oh go back to your own circlejerks. You've got plenty. Truth Social, 4chan, Twitter...
You do not belong here.
You do not belong here
My crime? Having a different opinion. You sound awfully fascist to me.
Your different opinion is that those who think LGBT people should die should be allowed to spread that opinion
You are wrong, deal
Except nobody said that, lmfao. Nice try though.
Most people don't have an issue with old conservatism, as it still had the goal of making the country better.
Modern conservatism is more focused on contrarianism and depriving various groups of their rights or quality of life. Given the tolerance paradox, people outside of this mindset don't want to allow discussion in that area to spread.
Due to this shift in conservatism, communities that, on their face, seem like communities with just a different political leaning have had to tolerate this bigotry.
I somewhat agree. Though it's hard to distinguish humour from truth these days.
where anything even remotely right wing is immediately removed regardless of how level-headed or civil it’s presented.
There is nothing civil about taking people's rights away, dehumanizing people, and destroying our biosphere. Fascism is inherently uncivil regardless of presentation.
I have seen more people with different ideologies beliefs and opinions have actual discussions and civil debates here since I joined then I have anywhere in a long time. I feel safe to comment and share my opinions because even if someone were to disagree and share a different opinion, I know I am not going to get a barrage of mean and hateful replies and messages.
Prior to 2015, I had friends from many walks of life. Sometimes we'd have some heated discussions, but no one was yelling, being racist, spewing hate etc.
Since 2016, most of my conservative friends actively eliminated everybody who did not think like them. It was mind-boggling how many people I knew asked who I voted for and if it wasn't for Trump they let me know I was no longer welcome to be their friend. I didn't even vote for Hillary and yet it was extremely difficult to even convince them of that. They forgot that there were other people running in the race apparently.
I think if you stick around long enough you will see many viewpoints and discussions here.