Looking for a good VPN for 2025, any recommendations?
Looking for a good VPN for 2025, any recommendations?
Would be moving from Mullvad, would appreciate opinions on the current landscape of VPN’s from those who keep a better eye out. TIA.
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I was going to recommend the one your moving from. Ha
What are your requirements?
Same. Mullvad #1.
Unless you need port forwarding, then Proton for those activities.
Haha Open to staying, just looking since it’s time to check the landscape out if anything’s changed. My friend has Proton VPN, but so many options these days.
Well some less than impressive news about the Proton CEO came out pretty recently. I'm a current user and thinking hard about switching to something else.
Lemme go find a link. Here we go, I went down this thread last night:
Bingo. When I heard about it, figured I would rather ask here.
Meh. Who cares about the political leanings of some CEO. Separate the art from the artist.
When the product is "trust" there is no separation. I do no longer trust the CEO so I will not use the product that relies on that trust.
There is not a single product you use that doesn't have the support of some trump supporter behind it. You gonna go live in the woods off of the fat of the land?
The food you buy, probably 90% Trump supporters. Gonna stop eating? Drive a car? Use plastic at all? All Trump supporting oil barons. Gonna stop using that stuff too? No?
But you'll sit here and virtue signal that you're such a gooooood person because you're swapping over to another VPN...
That also ends up having the same supporters behind it. Great, you hate trump, wooo you're such a virtuous person, (news flash: I'm sure most people do) -- Now come back to earth with the rest of us. Too many of you people let this shit live rent-free in your heads constantly.
Congrats you managed to skip over the first and second sentence in my 2 sentence comment.
A VPN is not like a physical product. YOU ARE BUYING TRUST. You shift the point of trust from your ISP, network provider, government etc to the VPN provider. You say "I trust this company more than I trust these other players, so I use their VPN which hides my traffic from these other players but puts the VPN provider in a position where they can see all my network traffic".
Ah yes, the good old "its bad but everything else you do is also bad so you're not allowed to start changing a habit".
Thats exactly what keeps things like this going.
There is not a single product you use that doesn't have the support of some trump supporter behind it.
This is not "some". It's the CEO and then a company double down.
But you know that, else you would have laid at argument, not have written a 4 paragraph long whatabautism.
Nice to see common sense on here for a change.
This reminds me of "Why do people always have to bring politics into this?" Hate to break it to you, but politics is relevant to every facet of life in a civilization. From the food you eat, to the ways you're able to make a living, to everything else in your life.
Proton is and always was sketchy.
A company claiming "Swiss privacy laws" as their base while de facto operating out of the US is highly problematic. Switzerland has the weakest privacy laws of all European countries, has laws in place for extensive intelligence agency placement within their tech companies and has a history of intelligence agency overreach. The USA can easily make companies and executives do what they want due to the whole Homeland security act clusterfuck.
I wouldn't touch then with a ten foot pole if data privacy was ones goal.
But what is wrong with Mullvad that your leaving it?
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/vpn/
A comparison from a group who matches my style of crazy.
Nothing, more VPN’s feel like they change fast anymore. Mainly I’m getting old lol, gives the guttural feeling of constantly trying to keep up 🤣.