Fifty Years of the Personal Computer Operating System
Fifty Years of the Personal Computer Operating System
Fifty years ago, PC software pioneer Gary Kildall demonstrated CP/M, the first commercially successful personal computer operating system.
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My response to the syntax error was a joke. Which is why it's formatted as a console log error. I didn't think much of it, other than I didn't understand why it was relevant to OPs post. Then he responded to my comment with some sillyness about running it through a compiler, which further didn't make sense. But I was like whatever... It was when he started saying that he's too old to remember syntax and how hes been programming for forty years and all this reference his experience with old tech. It smelled of some juvenile attempt to pretend to be something he's not. Which is why I commented about this not being the place to do that because Lemmy has a large population of folks that could easily see through this. At this point I was still pretty passive and didn't think much of it.
It's when he wrote the whole I'm too old to remember syntax from all the programming hes been doing for 40 years since his days on blah blah. This is when I called him out.
So he responds about his tough day, and how it was just a shit post joke and I said fine, fair enough, we all have bad days. I was willing to put it to bed and call it.
Finally he writes this wall of text about, despite being on the internet since it inception, how people on Lemmy are being so mean to him and how I could just think more positively and on and on. Yeah I over reacted to improper syntax, that's it...
You are continuing to overreact... you don't need to "call out" someone for, like maybe just not being a very good programmer? You're insane lol
Again, I am not calling him out for being bad at programming. It's not bad to make a mistake in code, AT ALL. The very best programmer make syntax errors all the time. That's just part of it. I am calling him out for trying to justify a comment that has no relevance to the post, that was only made to draw attention to himself, when multiple people called out the error he goes into a long deflection about how he has all this experience and makes excuses and tries to make it seem like he was victimized.
This is a small community and he does this often in other posts. It gets tiring seeing this nonsense, which I didn't say anything about until after started with all the "back in my day" stuff. I don't think it's an over reaction to try to humble someone who struggles with admitting fault, (not about programming, but that he is capable of making a mistake, in any context). It's a lesson we all should learn, especially someone who is over forty. If this makes me insane, then so be it.
Yes, it's insane. It's a bad joke, people comment those all the time.
Correct, people comment bad jokes all the time. This is completely irrelevant as I didn't call him out for the bad joke. I made a bad joke in response to his bad joke.
I called him out when a number of people corrected his bad joke (including down voting him), and he tried to justify the bad joke with more bad jokes and deflections about how he just couldn't remember syntax and he has all this experience. It's a problem he has with admitting fault, not about his joke, but how in making the "joke" he tried to prove to people he didn't really make a mistake.
He did this on another post the same day when he claimed a link was paywalled. It wasn't, multiple people said it wasn't, and he insisted it was for him, only to later, after multiple back and fourths say that he has bad eyes and that the site needs to be made better. I bring this up, because he even brought it up here.
So again, I have no issue with bad jokes, I have no issues with bad programming. I have an issue with people who want to pretend like they are perfect and it's everyone else who is at fault.
What? He said he didn't remember? How was he avoiding responsibility? And then there was another mistake that he also admitted to with the paywall? He's not pretending to be perfect, what more do you want? I'm imagining the only thing you'd be satisfied with is a 7 minute apology with a ukulele.
He said he ran it through compiler and it didn't complain (which he later claimed was sarcasm), then he said he couldn't remember the syntax because of all the different languages he used over the past forty years "That’s how long I’ve been programming, so long that I can’t even remember the syntax anymore." and then went on a long rant about all the computers he used as a kid.
He didn't admit the mistake on the paywall he said "Young webpage developers designing UI for younger aged eyes, and not thinking that when people get older they increase the font size of everything on their device so they can see still, which affects the layout of everything being displayed."
He never once said he was wrong in fact he double down on it with "I’m not going to change my original comment, and I still stand by it. If they obfuscate the way of closing the pop-ups by making the close button so small and insignificant compared to the other likewise texting around it, to me that still paywalling, as they’re trying to trick people into signing up for an account to read the article."
Again, I am not worried about the mistakes. He also certainly doesn't need to apologize. A simple acknowledgement without deflecting into some long excuse as to why it's not his fault or he's just so experienced that he got the details mixed up would be fine. Also again, if this was a one off example, I wouldn't have said anything, it's a trend I've seen him do a few times on a few different posts and it rubbed me the wrong way so I decided to call him out on it, like many others have also done.
You calling out his programming experience is just so dumb. It's totally reasonable for someone to not remember all the details from work decades ago. He went off on all these details about his career because you were interrogating him lmao
And about the paywall ... I mean he is right about those big-ass popups being such a UI nightmare they could be a barrier for some people. You're just mad he didn't edit his comment?
You're correct, it is very reasonable for someone not remember details about a language that was used in schools for education decades ago, that he himself said he played with as a kid, as I have done myself. AGAIN it's not that he didn't remember, it's that anyone who has worked as a programmer for decades, and I mean without exception, would ever in any circumstance post that code from memory. Because anyone who has done any coding knows you only remember syntax when you have been practicing in it daily. No one remembers the syntax to BASIC, it isn't a useful language. You would just search for "hello world" loop and you would find endless examples you could copy pasta. Which he himself says he likes to do with that creative commons nonsense he tags to every post.
Sure pop-ups suck. Sure interface design needs to be better, it's not the point. The point is he claimed that the site was paywalled, he was wrong, that's okay. He was told by multiple people he was wrong, including one person who went as far as to post a screenshot. Even after all that effort from the community he doesn't just say "ah my mistake, I see it now", he goes into an excuse of bad UI design, even though no one else had the problem. It simple, just say you made a mistake without making excuses. Really easy to do, and way less effort than this whole deflection thing he does.
He's a shit poster, who bullshits people because he doesn't want to be wrong. I am under no illusion anything will change with this guy. His shitty behavior continues today just as it has in the past. I just made the mistake of saying something about it.
So you're mad he didn't research his joke properly? Why do you care so bad if he "deflects", he's clearly just concerned about the website being difficult to access? Just let the comments that show it's not paywalled stay up, and let his concerns stay up as well. It's not a big deal. You're acting like a bully comment cop.
No, yet again, I am saying when he was corrected and down voted by multiple people he didn’t just acknowledge his mistake, he went on to try to pretend to be something he is not, and try to save face by exaggerating and deflecting. He is not concerned with anything but being right.
He is wasting peoples time who have voluntarily engaged with him. He is not contributing to the discussion and making flippant lazy comments.
I can spend my time how I choose and if I choose to have a discussion about his comments then that’s my decision. I have not bullied anyone, I just made two comments about this to him. Haven’t engaged with him since.
However you have said I am over reacting, being stupid and now bullying, because of my opinion of someone’s behavior. All the while you dismiss my opinion, disregard my points and apologize for his behavior like his mother. If it’s no big deal why are you still talking about this. You’re the only person still concerned. This ended two days ago for me.