If I never have to see another "F🍁ck Trudeau" flag again, it will be too soon.
If I never have to see another "F🍁ck Trudeau" flag again, it will be too soon.
Nothing says "classy" like flying that flag.
Good L🍁ck Trudeau! (But also, don't let the door hit you on the way out...)
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Did you just put a conservative in power? Have you learned nothing from us in the US.
Nope. @JohnnyCanck has a good explanation of what just happened, but some other info to add.
We're heading into a federal election soon, and the Conservative Party (right of the Democrats, and infused with a handful of Trump-level nutbars) held a solid lead for several months. When Trudeau announced he was stepping down, followed by Trump's tarriffs, the lead shrunk to roughly the margin of error.
Carney is fairly conservative for the Liberal party - he was appointed to lead the Bank of Canada by a (very!) Conservative PM, and then went on to head the Bank of England. He's a money manager for the rich, which is concerning, but also might draw some of the centrists back from the extreme right.
There's a fair chance that our next government will - again - be a minority, which will require the collaboration of parties, and often is when the most good gets done. Or we might get a CPC/Poilievre majority, in which case we'll be sucking up to Trump like a vacuum for four years.
jfc go away
Kisses, and you should block me if my comments upset you so much. It's super easy on lemmy.
If I have to put up with one more American desperate to be told, "You're one of the good ones!" I don't know what I am going to do.
Do you want me to go through the settings for you? It's super easy. There are dots or a "hamburger" below my name and off to the right on the website design. It will say "block user" there.
Not yet, we still have hope it won't happen.
Our system is a bit different. We elect a party and that party has a leader. The leader of the elected party is the Prime Minister. The leader can step down and the party stays in power and selects a new leader, who then becomes Prime Minister. Trudeau stepped down and his party selected Carney to replace him, so we have a new prime minister and maintain a centrist government. (Centrist to us, left wing to the US.)
We can also have elections at any time, either by choice of the party in power, or forced by the opposition parties if they have enough seats in the government. Our current party in power, The Liberals, don't have a majority, so they've been maintaining power by making deals with a left wing party (the NDP or New Democratic Party). Liberal + NDP is one seat or so from a majority right now, so they've been finding additional support from other parties. This has actually worked out pretty well, as it has forced the government to be a little more proactive and given the left a good amount of power. There is always the threat of losing power and having to make different parties happy.
If the NDP (or others) decide they don't like Carney, they can force an election and then we will have the chance of getting that Conservative government you were worried about. Most likely they will wait a bit to see how things are going before doing that because their worst fear is forcing an election and ending up in a worse position (a Conservative majority.) If you hear that Canada has a new Prime Minister named Poilievre in the next year, you'll know we just ran into the same shit you guys did.
The leader can step down and the party stays in power and selects a new leader, who then becomes Prime Minister. Trudeau stepped down and his party selected Carney to replace him
Just to clarify further, the party did not select him. Liberal voters voted for Carney at an overwhelming majority.
Thanks for explaining that. It sounds like a better system in that you can force an election at any time. I'm jealous of that right now.
I know the PR and propaganda machines have been going after Canada. I really hope you guys don't get forced or go willingly down the same road as us. I'll be looking for that Poilievre person to not be in the running.
you can force an election at any time.
Thing is, a government with a majority will often easily win a no-confidence kind of challenge. Especially true of conservatives, whose core strength is blind loyalty, there's no point in trying.
You can force an election for a minority government. If one party has a majority, it can go for a while, more then four years
Okay, I'm not jealous of the 4 year part unless it has some hidden benefit. Maybe moving that slow keeps it stable?
Maybe moving that slow keeps it stable?
That's not how long it takes. We have regional non-conservatives in power here, and they seem to be launching spurious confidence challenges every week. I think their plan is to have so many that people stop showing up and supporting the evil non-cons.
It wouldn't be a problem if we had proportional representation. In Canada, a party can get a majority government with a minority of the voting population due to how it's calculated. This often means low voter turnout because a large number of people feel their vote doesn't count.
It wouldn’t be a problem if we had proportional representation
Is there nothing it can't do? (when all you have is a hammer, everything's a nail)
So you have the same problem as us. I think in the olden days, our corrupt politicians and elites colluded with the world's corrupt politicians and elites, and had a good laugh how they set it up in their favor.
Election hasn't happened yet but Trudeau is stepping down.
Oh, got ya. It hasn't happened yet. Good luck to you fighting our stupid economic wars that we, the US, are certain to lose.
economic wars that we, the US, are certain to lose.
Any victory will be pyrrhic. Maybe we're hoping to pick up a state or trade for Alberta. ;-)