So, is the USA screwed?
So, is the USA screwed?
You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?
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It might take a long time to fix, but someday we will recover.
I think the US is over. There will be something else for sure, but i don't know if the US is salvageable
I think you need some perspective. The situation is bad and seems like foreshadowing of worse things to come. However, we're a pretty far distance from states pulling away or civil war breaking out.
Um, not so much. California is going to have a vote on state independence on the next ballot. I can see Texas following suit.
And does anyone actually think those have a chance of passing right now?
There's always been talk of succession here and there, but we just aren't at the point of the US actually breaking up.
I mean I don't think most people are for state independence now, but the idea is gaining legitimacy. There's just no reason to stick with a federal government that will take your taxes and then give you nothing.
doubtful, the usa isnt to keen on balkanization.
Yeah we aren't anywhere close to the point of states breaking out of the union. Some people will call for it, maybe even a lot. But as soon as they realize what is required that shit will stop immediately. California would quite literally need to go to war with the union to gain that independence regardless of what they voted. So not only would they need to actually vote for it but then they'd have to be willing to go to war and kill and die for that separation and their independence.
As strong as people feel, we aren't even close to that point. Not to mention it would fail; none of the states currently have any hope of competing against the US military machine. Give us a couple hundred more years to really really deteriorate and siphon all value from the people and land and we may be there.
I dunno, the US military machine may not be that impressive for very long the way they're going
There's more to it than that. I'm talking about a dictatorship, where trump flaunts the law, more than he already has.
If these things Trump is removing with presidential orders was so important, why the fuck didn't Congress make them laws while Democrats had a majority in the past twenty fucking years?
This shit is infuriating to me that we only blame one side for these issues.
why the fuck didn’t Congress make them laws
Why do you think that would make any difference? Are you not seeing the trump administration straight up ignoring laws that are in place blocking a lot of their current behavior?
Fair point. But then if laws are meaningless if you happened to be wealthy or in a position of power, why is everyone in the Democratic Party essentially shrugging and doing literally nothing about this?
Because the Democratic party is, and always has been, a willing collaborator.
They have their petty squabbles, but they've always been on the same side in regards to making sure the wealthy and powerful stay that way, at all costs.
I agree. Even if the democrats were doomed to fail because of how the Republicans operate. But the democrats didn't even start the process.
At least be in record that a bill was put up and the Republicans voted it down. To not do anything was stupid. Maybe ya get lucky and get something passed.