The podcast was "How did we get Weird" with Vanessa Bayer and her brother Jonah. He was on to talk about "Little House on the Prairie" and goes into more TV talk. All very interesting. Sorry unable to provide time code. Link is to spotify Better link. Spotify

That's so weird. Tim Heidecker was just talking about this exact thing on a podcast. It was on Empty Nest. The whacky neighbor guy. You tube clip

Let's see: Denial, anger, depression, bargaining. Everything, but acceptance.