@charonn0 @ValueSubtracted oh yes! Played Armada 2 more, especially modded.

@halm @GuyFleegman I really wish I saw in S1 what you all seem too. To me it's a weirdly disjointed season:

Part 1: Introduction two parter, set up Burnham.
Part 2: Klingon War
Part 3: Mirror Universe
Part 4: Oops, forgot the Klingons! Wrap up.

I LOVED Lorca and his arc, that was very good. But the season itself doesn't hang together as a consistent serialised story, it feels like they were halfway through shooting and had to suddenly make 4 more episodes, and it shattered the story.

@MajorHavoc so did the Breen 😍

But I'm honestly biased against Discovery anyway. I wanted to like it, wished I could love it, or even just enjoy it, but I just couldn't. I do appreciate that they did take on feedback and improve it, it just isn't for me. And neither is Picard S1 or S2.

@halm DS9 is the best series and seasons 4 to 7 are the best Trek ever made.

@MajorHavoc @halm better than season 7 of DS9? Or (most of) S4 of Enterprise? Ok, to each their own. It was better than the previous two seasons of Disco, the story was better planned and the episode quality more consistent, but why do you think it's the best ever?

@circuitfarmer @warmaster I was so disappointed in Picard. Season 1 seemed to take all the wrong lessons from modern TV: it went for the gore and tragedy of Game of Thrones but that just doesn't fit the Star Trek medium.

I can see what they wanted to do with Discovery, but quite honestly it felt like there was too little respect for what Trek was before. It didn't have to be the same, but Discovery S1 felt like it was different for the sake of being different, not to be good.

@benfell @ValueSubtracted I loved Voyager as a kid, but I was 11 when it ended so 🤷‍♂️. Rewatching it now is hard because most episodes leave me with the feeling of missed potential. While it didn't need to be as serialised as DS9 ended up, paying a bit more attention to continuing character threads or subplots across episodes or seasons would have made it a much stronger series. We joke about the torpedo count, but it's a symptom of how little care Voyager took to developing its story.

@cyd @ijeff you're missing the big one: Director. Frakes, Dawson, McNeil, Siddig... plenty of Trek actors have gone on to direct TV and film.

@jmp242 @Solumbran flaws. DS9 was all about showing the shades of grey of "real people", not simplifying them into purely good or evil