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UK clothing sales to EU plummet as Brexit red tape deters exporters
  • Also, in my view the EU is quite undemocratic. The separate Council, Commission and Parliament are an affront. Especially the fact that the Parliament, which represents the electorate, does not have the power to introduce legislation.

    You do realise that the entire structure of the EU was primarily dreamt up by British legal experts? It's quite literally one of the best, most robust and most competent systems of governance in the world.

    Yes, Parliament can't introduce legislation by themselves, but that's because we don't want populists like Farage, Boris or Trump to do that. They're charismatic, but not actually competent. That's why talented legal experts in the European Commission (who are each appointed by elected governments of member states, the UK had 6 iirc), people who actually know how law works, write the laws. The elected MEP's vote on the laws.

    However even here we're missing the fact that the European Parliament (EP) do have a say in the legislation. The EC writes an "Impact Assessment" with rough draft of the law they're thinking of writing (which anyone can comment on), then this is presented before Parliament who propose and discuss amendments. So it's completely disingenuous to imply that the elected EP is somehow beholden to the "unelected" (but chosen for competency by elected member governments) EC bureaucrats.

    And all that skips around what starts the EC's initial proposal. Aside from occassionally writing laws off their own backs, the EC responds to requests from:

    • The European Council (heads of state or government of each EU country)
    • The Council of the European Union (government ministers from each EU country)
    • The European Parliament (directly elected by EU citizens)
    • Citizens themselves, following a successful European Citizens’ Initiative

    That's right, not only can Parliament demand new legislation (they just have to get the big boy lawyers to write it for them), but individual citizens can directly!

    Parliament has the final say in whether or not legislation is implemented. That's completely democratic. What you call "an affront" is actually competent people writing effective legislation. Rather than bullshit like the Rwanda deal which states the UK will accept vulnerable refugees from Rwanda in exchange for the small boat migrants to Rwanda (all paid for by the UK taxpayer), or the general ineptitude of no legislation at all and a Hard Brexit causing issues like sewage being dumped in our rivers since water companies now face restrictions on importing treatment chemicals from the EU.

  • UK clothing sales to EU plummet as Brexit red tape deters exporters
  • William Rees-Mogg wrote 3 books in the 90s, I forget the 3rd one but the other two were called "(The Best Time To Buy Is When There Is) Blood In The Streets" and "The Sovereign Individual". The latter describes a Sovereign as someone who earns more than $200k per year (90s money, so more like £500k today) and uses their wealth and influence to live above the laws of any nation. This is the kind of "sovereignty" his son Jacob Rees-Mogg campaigned for, he's literally laughing at all his supporters while he's doing it.

  • Transport secretary considers ban on floating bus stops in UK cycle lanes
  • Yeah, I mean apparently this is being driven by charities for the blind, but you can even see in the main image for the article that there is a defined crossing over the cycle lane with different texture pavement tiles. The blind are far from being ignored here.

  • Starmer to rip up Rwanda scheme and fund new anti-smuggling unit
  • It's more than that in the UK, unfortunately. Suella Braverman's father ran British concentration camps in Kenya, she's trying to restart the family business (funded entirely by the taxpayer), the reason they haven't been processing people is simply so they have enough occupants for their new camps.

  • Starmer to rip up Rwanda scheme and fund new anti-smuggling unit
  • Most civil servants are good (for government workers) but the Home Office has been stacked with people by all the vile Home Secretaries the Tories have had over the last 14 years. Sacking them is prudent.

  • Scarborough woman wants answers after being told she is dead
  • They are, that's why they freeze things first and only proceed when they get a copy of the death certificate. Someone has to give them the death certificate, which is why nothing happened here for 4 months.

    For bank accounts, this means you can't withdraw their money until it's gone through probate. However, if it's a joint account then the surviving account holder can still use the account as normal. However if no one's pushing for probate (and without death certificates) nothing much will happen for a while.

    This is why it's a bit of a non-story, nothing major happened ultimately, nothing was likely to happen soon (her carer's payments stopped temporarily but it sounds like she didn't realise until after the hospital appointment), and if anything the most surprising thing is that it took the "dead" person 4 months to even notice the mistake.

  • Scarborough woman wants answers after being told she is dead
  • NHS England said they were aware of an issue involving an incorrect death registration which was rectified by the patient's GP but they do not notify the DWP of a death.

    Let me guess, NHS England uses a version of Horizon, and DWP have special secret backdoor access into health records...

  • Two UK water companies lack complete maps of sewage networks
  • You don't apply for a permit, you go to LinesearchbeforeUdig - This is a free service anyone can use, and you'll get emails from various asset owners with maps of what they have in the area you select. Some might try to charge for this, these ones are assholes.

    As far as the law is concerned, it's up to you to make sure you do it right and the costs for doing it wrong will all fall on your shoulders.

    The only permit you need AFAIK is planning permission - which won't be granted until you convince them you've done a sufficient line search. Aside from that, you need permission from the land owner, of course.

  • Labour promises rail nationalisation within five years of coming to power
  • Currently Network Rail owns and operates (nearly) all the railways, signals and ticket offices. Not sure about stations. Train companies rent rail stock, but they pay a high price for this and subsequently pass that onto the consumer, while maintaining that it's necessary to charge expensive fares because their costs are so high.

    The government owns Network Rail. The government will take over the rail companies, and this will probably end up staggered as different companies have different contract dates. The rail stock itself will probably remain under the same ownership with more or less the same ridiculous rental charges.

    So all in all this probably won't make that much difference.

  • Labour promises rail nationalisation within five years of coming to power
  • Exactly. The rolling stock is where all the money goes, meanwhile the public-facing train companies you buy tickets from (who rent rolling stock) operate at or near a loss. This way the train companies can negotiate better contracts with local governments - "Look, we're barely making any money, we have to charge ludicrously high fares for piss poor service!"

  • Brit passengers on four-hour flight to Turkey drink entire plane dry in 25 minutes
  • While the chance of dying in a plane crash is very low, if you get into a situation where the plane is going to crash then the chance of dying is very high. In which case, being drunk might make that experience a little more bearable.

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    What should the rules be here at UK Memes?

    I figure it's probably time this community has some formal rules, that way I can properly justify wielding a ban hammer from time to time. So far we've skirted by without a single report or any issues I felt worthy of attention, however someone finally broke my duck and sent a report.

    This place is nothing without the users that visit and populate it with content, though, so I'm creating this post to ask you lovely folks how you think the community should be run.

    Here's a set of rules I totally made up myself and didn't steal from somewhere else:


    1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
    2. Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.
    3. No porn.
    4. No Ads / Spamming.

    I'd also probably throw something in there about AI images, but I can't be bothered to write that now and my dinner's getting cold.






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    6 Sadiq Khan wants Londoners to step in and say 'maaate' to pals when they are sexist to women

    Sadiq Khan has launched a new campaign telling men and boys to say the word "maaate" to each other when their friends are sexist and misogynistic.

    Sadiq Khan wants Londoners to step in and say 'maaate' to pals when they are sexist to women

    Sadiq Khan wants Londoners to step in and say 'maaate' to pals when they are sexist to women

    21 July 2023, 09:33 | Updated: 21 July 2023, 09:41 Sadiq Khan was joined by Romesh Ranganathan to launch the campaign

    By Will Taylor

    Sadiq Khan has launched a new campaign telling men and boys to say the word "maaate" to each other when their friends are sexist and misogynistic.

    The mayor of London wants them to step in when they see pals use language or behave in a way with women and girls that "crosses the line".

    His office specifically spelt the word "maaate" in material promoting the initiative which is backed by comedian Romesh Ranganathan.

    Mr Khan said: "'Maaate' is a simple and effective intervention that can help stop problematic language and behaviour in its tracks.

    Read more: Susan Hall wins race to become Tory candidate to face-off against Sadiq Khan in London mayoral election

    "Last year I urged men and boys to challenge sexist behaviour and misogynistic attitudes with my award-winning 'Have A Word' campaign. Now, we're giving them the word to say.

    "It is only by ensuring that women and girls are both protected and respected that we can continue to build a better, safer London for everyone."

    Say Maaate to a Mate | Romesh Ranganathan and Sadiq Khan in conversation

    Ranganathan said: "I'm backing this campaign because we can no longer allow sexism and misogyny to be dismissed as 'banter.'

    "By asking men and boys to say 'maaate' to a mate we can be better friends to each other and better allies to women and girls.

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    "As men, we have a responsibility to work together to stop sexist and misogynistic behaviour. Whether it’s in the classroom, the boardroom or onstage, everyone deserves to be treated with respect."

    The decision to use "maaate" came after Mr Khan teamed up with what was described as "world-leading behavioural scientists".

    Research shows two in three men want to intervene when they hear misogynistic language being used but don't know what to say, the mayor's office explained.

    One in four male Londoners aged between 19 and 34 said they regretted not calling out a friend or relative over misogyny.

    Shaming friends was deemed to be a worse way of dealing with it than challenging the behaviour respectfully.

    Previously, Mr Khan called on men to "have a word" with themselves and friends to tackle violence against women.


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