Agree and understand that users don't want to be flooded with Thread posts. I think until the user is able to block on their own, the main mastodon.social and lemmy should stay federated as most new users go there. If they don't want to see threads, then they can move to one that defederated. But only until the users have the ability to block threads on their own, then it should be the users choice.
Thats fair and completely understand. I feel it should be the users choice to block the content they don't want to see as opposed to a complete cut off for all users but from previous comments I've gotten, that is not possible yet. Maybe within the apps it would be possible atm but if the only way to not see the content is to defederate, then that makes sense to me.
I do still feel that for the bigger mastodon.social and lemmy, they should not defederate since most new users will go there and if they dont want to see the flood of Thread posts, then they can move to a group that defederated.
No post has been made that I know of. Mastodon's CEO laid out his stance in the post below and I would hope Lemmy would follow with them.
Lots of echo chambering going on in here about EEE and Meta profiting off of everything. In reality, they can scrape data like anyone else, the profit from such small communities is negligible, and defederating meta would only hurt those that defederated because way more users than people here think will want to see and manage Threads while also not needing a Threads account to avoid the data hell that it is.
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/
This is fine.
It should be the users choice to block Threads, not the federation. What does Meta loose in getting defederated, they're already able to scrape like everyone else, you're just going to inconvenience users wanting an alternative. Some people want to see thread posts while also avoiding the data hell Meta is. Mastodon is a great way to do that and because of this will gain tons of users. Defederating will only gain meta more users since it took away the alternative option. Not everyone cares about the ecosystem like Facebook and Instagram but love twitter and need that addiction fix. The very small amount of users on mastodon will not make a dent in the profits of Meta at all.
Copying this from another comment I made. Defederating would pretty much cut off a lot of potential new users that want to see posts on Threads while also not wanting to have a Meta account and all the issues that come with it. People here need to realize that they are in an echo chamber. Mastodon and Lemmy needs users and content. Cutting a big portion of that would kill it in the long run. There would be nothing to "extinguish" in the first place in their complaints of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
I agree with you. Defederating would pretty much cut off a lot of potential new users that want to see posts on Threads while also not wanting to have a Meta account and all the issues that come with it. People here need to realize that they are also in an echo chamber. Mastodon and Lemmy needs users and content. Cutting a big portion of that would kill it in the long run. There would be nothing to "extinguish" in the first place.
People want the new and shiny and to the regular person, the fediverse doesn't exist and Threads is the only option to Twitter. Its all over my twitter feed and ain't none of them are paid shills.
Would defederating make things worse? I would want to see posts from these users and blocking them would force users to use Meta's app and in turn more likely for users to switch over and create accounts on their app.
I understand its a big scary corporate business but the fedaverse should be open. Closing off a potential big userbase does not seem to be the smartest move and it opens up the rabithole of instances starting to block each other left and right, ruining the entire point.
For those looking and trying new apps, Ive had the most success with Liftoff on Android. I've had the least bugs with this app and otherwise has been a smooth experience. Just know to expect bugs at this time on pretty much everything as they all are pretty early in their builds.