> So why did we do stop the steal? Why did anyone go to January 6th? Why is anyone sitting in jail? Why did anything bad happen to anybody? Why did everyone get censored? Why is everything bad that has happened to the people that are involved? Why did that need to happen? If you’re just going to walk it all back and say, “oh, I lost.” > Well, that would have been good to know that before 1600 people got charged! It would have been good to know that before I had all my money frozen, put out a no fly list, banned from everything, lost all banking and payment processing! > Would have been good to know that. Before I, you know, in 2017, dedicated my life to this as an 18 year old in college. Just feels like a big rip off!

(Full transcript and video on the linked site.)

Europapa got 182 out of 216 possible points and scored the second place in the second semi-final. Only a bit less than Israel, this would have probably meant a top 5 placement in the finale.

Just like with the semi-finals, this is the live thread for the Grand Final of the Eurovision Song Contest 2024. As there is (to my knowledge), no Lemmy equivalent to https://reddit-stream.com/, the best alternative is refreshing the website about once after each song. This should still be okay for now as this community is relatively small. Sort by New to see the newest comments or additionally click on the Chat button to break the replies apart and even show the newest replies.

Thanks to @[email protected], there are some links for the Grand Finale: The Grand Finale Livestream on YouTube: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ckGRHJ-J9G4

National broadcasts:

• German broadcast: https://www.ardmediathek.de/video/eurovision-song-contest/am-11-05-esc-2024-der-finalabend-live-aus-malmoe/das-erste/Y3JpZDovL25kci5kZS80NmVjOWQ0Yi03ZTJkLTQ2N2UtOGJjNy03NzUzMDdmOWUwMWE
• Swedish broadcast: https://www.svtplay.se/video/KVk3NNg/eurovision-song-contest/eurovision-samegillii-esc-2024-med-samisk-kommentator
• Finnish broadcast: https://areena.yle.fi/1-70127659

Perhaps one of these might not be geoblocked, but not guaranteed)

And some background information:

• Final running order: https://eurovision.tv/story/eurovision-2024-final-running-order
• Backstage at the turqoise carpet: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J9O_Ba8PfqU

As there are so many posts about this topic and it's getting a bit out of hand, I'll create one central place where we can talk about this stuff and share updates. If there are very big updates, I might create a new post as the new megathread but for now, please don't create new posts for updates but post them here as comments.

Latest news: AVROTROS (the Dutch broadcaster) released a statement. The full statement is in the comments but roughly, they state that against made agreements, Joost Klein was filmed directly after getting off the stage and getting to the greenroom. He indicated he didn't want to be filmed, but this was not respected, leading to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera, but he did not touch the camera women. This was the whole incident leading to the investigation by EBU and police, according to them.

According to several news outlets, Joost Klein will not perform in the Jury show of the ESC for the Netherlands. It’s still open whether he will perform in the Grand Final or not.

A Dutch article additionally states that > Joost Klein is not allowed to participate in the jury show of the Eurovision Song Contest. The investigation into the incident that came out earlier on Friday has not yet been completed, AVROTROS reports. Klein does not miss out on any points: the professional jury assesses his performance in the second semi-final.

As there has been some interest in a live thread such as the ones on r/eurovision, here is the live thread for the second semi-final of the Eurovision Song Contest 2024. Sadly, I didn’t find any Lemmy equivalent to https://reddit-stream.com/. But as this community is still pretty small, I think refreshing the website once after each song should be okay. Sort by New to see the newest comments or additionally click on the Chat button to break the replies apart and even show the newest replies.

Credits to u/UsernameVeryFound on Reddit

Original post on Reddit

As there has been some interest in a live thread such as the ones on r/eurovision, here is the live thread for the first semi-final of the Eurovision Song Contest 2024. Sadly, I didn't find any Lemmy equivalent to https://reddit-stream.com/. But as this community is still pretty small, I think refreshing the website once after each song should be okay. You can click on the Chat button to sort all comments by newest, even replies to other comments.

I think it makes sense to have a general discussion thread to build this community and for you to be able to interact more with each other and talk about stuff.

You can write about all kinds of Eurovision related things here: What are your current favorite songs? Which one grew on or off you recently? What are your staging suggestions? What are your rankings? What are your predictions? Have fun talking about the songs :D

The Netherlands just released their song for the Eurovision song contest 2024: Europapa by Joost Klein.

Switzerland has released their song for the Eurovision song contest 2024. What do you think about it?

Switzerland has released their song for the Eurovision song contest 2024. What do you think about it?

Tonight, Croatia decided in their national selection (Dora) to send the song Rim Tim Tagi Dim by Baby Lasagna the the Eurovision Song Contest 2024. The song has already been the favorite in the odds and by fans and elevated Croatia in the odds.

I am using last.fm to track what music I hear and they provide many detailed statistics to how much I listened, and it turned out that place 1, 2 and 4 of my most-listened songs in 2023 were Eurovision songs. (And the third place being by Måneskin is even ESC-related as well). I thought that's worth to be shared here :D

What ESC songs did you listen most to in this year? Have there been ESC songs in your most listened songs as well?

I noticed how there's no Spronkus Kronkus at 196 anymore at all, and since they were the original reason I discovered 196 back on Reddit, I thought it would be nice to get back to them and post them for once. :)

Art is by u/Nate_Meowski on Reddit (I don't know if they have a Lemmy account).

I just found this community, and in case anyone here has a game they really like and really want to play, but sadly doesn't have a macOS port and is just Windows only, this might help.

The best option you have is wine-crossover. While the Wine website currently doesn't offer a macOS build, the main macOS Wine maintainer has published the Open Source version wine-crossover, which works amazingly well and can even translate Direct X, meaning that video games work with it. Just use brew install --cask --no-quarantine gcenx/wine/wine-crossover to download it. It will then just be a regular program in your programs folder called Wine. And if you double-click on any .exe-files, it will open them with Wine, translate them in realtime and execute them. Then you just need to download the Windows version of Steam, just open it (with Wine), download the Windows game, and voila, you can easily play it :D This is e.g. how I played Will You Snail (which is a really great game, but sadly only available for Windows) on macOS without any problems.

This works with most games, and as I said, I personally often use Wine to play Windows only games (or even games whose macOS versions are 32bit, which my computer can't run anymore). However, if a game has too high graphic requirements for your computer to run, or does not work with Wine (which can happen with e.g. some games that use custom DRMs), then another alternative I know is Nvidia GeForce Now, a could streaming service which allows you to use your own bought games (e.g. on Steam) and play it on a remote computer. It is free to try, although you can only play an hour at a time with the free tier. I've used the free tier for years (I mostly played in the middle of the night, so there were no waiting queues), and I even often played games that had a macOS build (like Planet Coaster), but which were too large to fit on my disk space. So this is definitely something I can also recommend and it's a good way to play even the most demanding games without any graphical problems. The downsides are the limitations of the free tier (although the paid tier without queues or the one hour limit is also worth it you really use the service), and that you need at least a medium-well internet connection for it. Also, they sadly don't have the full Steam catalogue but just a very big selection of games.

So yeah, those are the tools I usually use to play games that don't have a macOS build on my macOS computer. I'm glad if this helps anybody else and have fun playing! :D