Beehaw is single handedly ruining my experience on Lemmy
Beehaw is single handedly ruining my experience on Lemmy
Beehaw dominates my feeds by having many of the most popular groups and posts. And yet, I can't participate in a single one, despite having two accounts on two of the other major instances. Neither are accepted there.
Fine! I'll make a Beehaw too so I can, you know, actually participate.
But no I have to apply? And I have to give reasons of why I should be let in? The fuck?
Well my application was rejected, I guess for being to vague on what I was joining for? I'm joining for a variety of communities and uses, as I'm sure most users are, so wtf kind of questions are those anyway.
Use a god damn captcha and let people fucking have accounts and use the fucking platform.
I think right now everyone wants to join beehaw because its big. Beehaw doesn't want to be big, it wants to be safe for its users and as a result defederated a ton of instances to maintain it. you're not missing anything by leaving beehaw behind. It's a blip on the radar in these early days. Yesterday i was kinda mad about it too, today I have just moved on and guess what...it's fine. I guess they plan on refederating at some point with lemme world and shitjustworks but for now, they are maintaining their community as they see best. I don't think it will work long term because as people get acquainted with what it actually means to defederate and how it creates an echo chamber (many don't yet understand how visibility of comments works on defederated lemmys), people on the outside will stop wanting in and people on the inside won't even realize how bubbled they have become.
I have a similar problem. Can't participate. I applied and was rejected. Not sure what they're looking for, but I'm not writing a paper just so I can discuss video games.
It feels like it has a very small instance vibe, but blew up because it was an early one with some stability. At a point might just be worth blocking the communities you see from beehaw and just find conversation elsewhere :\
yeah they ain't making this a good looking option with their elitism, other than that I've been loving lemmy at least!
Honestly its their fight to lose. Or maybe win, in their eyes. They'll be the smaller, left out community in a few weeks as more and more people migrate in with new apps and instances. Maybe that's what they want.
If I recall they aren't trying to be a large mainstream instance, they're trying to be a safespace, if that means limiting their userbase then so be it. I respect the admins' decision so I just don't interact with their communities from instances with open registration
I think the big problem was that they were one of the initial, fairly open, popular instances. And only after they gained popularity did they decide to shut and barricade their doors. It feels kind of bad to have been participating in there and then to suddenly effectively "banned" from participating in some of the (at the time) most popular communities.
If they had initially began with their walled garden intent (like Tildes has done), it would be less jarring. As it stands, it's a bit like having the rug suddenly pulled out from under you. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I don't necessarily appreciate the way the admins over there are handling things. It should have just been that way from the beginning and I wouldn't have had a problem with it.
I'm sure there is an instance that has open registration that beehaw is federated with. It's not private information: https://beehaw.org/instances
I think I read somewhere down the line beehaw will refederate with lemmyworld.
Yeah in their announcement they said it was temporary. Still a bit of a frustrating solution for such a large instance.
Maybe they should be federated at the MOST critical time for the entire platform? Just a thought, idk, maybe I'm crazy
Have you tried signing up with a federated instance? https://beehaw.org/instances
The never even responded to my application weeks ago :( There's definitely way more conversation on other instances though. Beehaw used to be second biggest
I've been using mostly all and local feeds as opposed to my subs to try and explore and find groups, but I swear the number of times I go to comment on a post only to find it's either a beehaw or via beehaw and I can't interact at all is about 2/3 of the time
My understanding is that it’s because Lemmy is lacking some moderation/admin utilities. Basically, a few of their members are getting threatened with violence or something and the only way to stop them getting messages sent to them is to de-federate (at least for a little while).
Their goal is to make their members feel safe. With federation, it’s not like you can just report a user and expect the admins to all act similarly—different instances and all.
Edit: As mentioned below I forgot a key point: They intend to re-federate once the tools are in place. This is temporary.
I mean there was a crybaby community squatter today right here on lemmy world who created an account to load up thousands of garbage named communities and try to get them on the Trending board after being banned for breaking the rules.
That’s probably the kind of trash person Beehaw is trying to keep from ruining the experience there.
they have mentioned that they plan to refederate in the future when tools are available
Just use some other instance there
I just have one account for kbin.social and one for lemmy.world. Kbin lets me participate on beehaw aswell if I wish to do so.
It gives me two different approaches of the fediverse to test, which i like.
Beehawk has been a small and tightly knit community for years now, not just by sheer luck, but by extreme moderation.. Even before this whole reddit fiasco when Lemmy was pretty much dead comparatively, you had to apply to be allowed on their server, which is completely fine, they make the rules..
Use a god damn captcha and let people fucking have accounts and use the fucking platform.
This isn't reddit and people need to really really start to understand that.. Lemmy isn't a commodity, it is not a business. You have 0 right to use ANY lemmy server that you don't pay for yourself, so please stop with this entitled attitude..
Ideally Lemmy wouldn't show you content that you can't interact with. Mastodon has that so it's possible, might take a feature request in the Lemmy software itself.