Thousands of Germans protest the Ukrainian war
Thousands of Germans protest the Ukrainian war
The following is from a report in the Oct. 4 German daily newspaper jungewelt.de about antiwar actions in Germany. Translation: John Catalinotto. Peace activist Willi van Ooyen of the Ukraine antiwar initiative called “Lay down your arms - No to war” reported about protests by the peace movement:
In Hamburg, because of the nationwide celebration of the “Day of German Unity,” a larger demonstration of the peace movement took place. More than 700 people took part in today’s rally in Hamburg in front of the Altona train station followed by a march to the fish market in pouring rain.
In Munich, 2,500 people gathered in sunny weather on Marienplatz under the slogan “Mir reicht’s – Macht Frieden” (“I’ve had enough – make peace”). On Odeonsplatz, more than 300 peace activists said, “It’s high time for peace politics! Organize resistance against militarism and war!”
More than 300 people responded to the call of the Rhine-Ruhr Peace Assembly for a protest demonstration against the air force command center in Kalkar/Uedem.
In Berlin, more than 800 people marched from the Foreign Ministry to the Finance Ministry, then to the Social Democratic Party (SPD) headquarters, demanding disarmament — and no further arms deliveries to Ukraine.
In Düsseldorf, more than 300 rally participants called for “winning the peace, not the war.” Other events took place in Saarbrücken, Schorndorf and Heidelberg.
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This is giving me real "Black people wouldn't get shot if they just complied with the police" vibes.
Putin can end the war tomorrow if he wishes.
Whereas if Ukraine stops resisting, they will cease to be, and their working class will be obliterated and absorbed into the kleptocratic Russian state to be exploited for decades to come.
Are you seriously comparing a military alliance that’s been repeatedly breaking its promise not to expand eastward to unarmed black people suffering police brutality?
Whereas if Ukraine stops resisting, they will cease to be, and their working class will be obliterated and absorbed into the kleptocratic Russian state to be exploited for decades to come.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Russia invaded Ukraine.
If Russia wants the war to end, Russia can just leave.
Would you likewise defend naked US imperialism in the Middle East? "Oh, but Iraq broke its promises so we just HAD to invade them a second time!!"
Goddamn anti-working class, privileged shills y'all are. Please stop actively sabotaging the global working class by bootlicking for our oppressors. It won't win you brownie points with Putin. Best you'll get is a refreshing cup of polonium tea.
Oh, I see. So you aren’t here to learn, as evidenced by you obviously ignoring the link that I shared. You just want to goof around here because you can’t think of anything better to do with your day.
Thanks for wasting my time. See you.
You don't even know what NATO is. NATO is an alliance, and talking about it "expanding" is by countries choosing to join, largely for fear of Russian imperialism. My best friend is Finnish, and he told me how almost no one in Finland wanted to join NATO before Russia invaded Ukraine, but that popular, working-class opinion turned around so fast after the invasion that it would make your head spin.
So the question is: why do you not believe countries have the right to band up to protect themselves against imperialist aggressors? Is it because you want your favorite imperialist aggressor to oppress even more working class folks across Europe?
It's so blatantly obvious you're here in bad faith to sabotage the working class and sow discord.
There was no paper signed. There was no treaty. If these countries want to band together because Russia acts like an imperialist ass, then so be it. Let ukraine join nato so we can finally put an end to these russian assholes.
Holy fuck, am I supposed to read the source for you? Okay, here’s a clue:
Ukraine opted instead to prolong the Donbas conflict, and there was never significant pressure from the West to alter course. Though there were brief reports of the accords’ revival as recently as late January, Ukrainian security chief Oleksiy Danilov warned the West not to pressure Ukraine to implement the peace deal. “The fulfillment of the Minsk agreement means the country’s destruction,” he said (AP, 1/31/22). Danilov claimed that even when the agreement was signed eight years ago, “it was already clear for all rational people that it’s impossible to implement.”
Which part is the one confusing you?
The part where nato signed an agreement with Russia to not expand. What you linked has nothing to do with that.
I don't remember the Crimean working class being obliterated.