Subscribing to small (previously unseen by kbin) communities
Subscribing to small (previously unseen by kbin) communities
How does this work on kbin at the moment?
My understanding is that, at least on Lemmy, you should be able to search for a full community name, wait a while, and have it show up and start federating. I've been searching for two communities (in the format [email protected]) on kbin since yesterday and it still shows no matches.
Both are small (<20 subscribers) and currently inactive (no new posts in a week). Do I need to wait until there is new content in them?
If a search for a particular magazine, e.g. [email protected] in the magazines section, does not yield a result, it means that you are the first person to search for it. In this case, search for [email protected] in the general search (magnifying glass icon on the top right). Then a federation with that magazine will be created.
Huh! That seems like an oversight, I expected it to start federating when you search for magazines, even when you're the first to look for them; I expected the main search to search for threads/posts only.
Doing what you said worked immediately, but it says the (local versions) were created 31 minutes ago, so I don't think I was the one to fix it for these two particular communities.
When someone searches for an off-site community for the first time, two things happen: One, the local site sends a query to the remote site, asking of that community exists, and two, if it does, the local site creates a local space for that community that links back to the original.
If you're doing this on a lemmy-based website, it'll also, I believe, pull in the 20 most recent posts from the remote community.
But that's it. Thta's as far as it goes. The back catalogue doesn't come with it, and new posts don't show up until someone on the local site subscribes to the remote group. Someone needs to actively signal that they want the future content, otherwise it's just taking up bandwidth and CPU cycles and disc space.
I have the same problem with a particular guild wars 2 community:
[email protected] doesn't appear in searches.Have you guys also seen communities not federate fully? Like if you browse https://lemmy.world/c/tampabaylightning from within kbin, you see 2 posts. But from an instance like lemmy.ca, you'll see the entirety of 6 posts.
Obviously, this community is pretty well dead but it's interesting to me that it appears to be federating, but is still missing part of the content.
The community on kbin (i.e the federated version) was created 3 days ago, I don't think posts older than that are ever going to be visible on kbin.
They will be if someone who can see those posts boosts them.
That's what boosting does. It republishes posts so that newer users can see them, too.
I'll admit, it doesn't always work, but if you search a few times it seems to come up eventually.
I wonder if some of it also has to do with how federation works. Once a user visits and follows another instance the two instances start to federate. The more instances and sites of lemmy/kbin and the more users the harder it might get.
Are the communities on lemmy or kbin you are looking for?
On Kbin looking for lemmy or other federations: /m/[email protected]
On kbin looking for thegeddit infocommunity on geddit.social: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]On lemmy looking for /m/KbinMeta: /c/[email protected]
https://geddit.social/c/[email protected]They are on lemmy. If I try to visit them on kbin I get a 404 though, as they are not federated yet. I'm not sure how I can trigger that. Visiting the links doesn't work, and searching for them to subscribe doesn't work.
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]https://lemmy.ml/c/slaythespire
https://lemmy.ca/c/slaythespireI can find the mod's profile on kbin: https://kbin.social/u/@[email protected]
and I know other communities on lemmy.ml work as I subscribe to the /m/[email protected] from kbin. Might need time or more posts to start the federation.
I feel like kbin in general was a bit slow a couple hours ago. Maybe you should check again now? I just accessed the first two links from kbin and can see the communities (although it doesn't show any posts in the first and only one in the second).
Thanks for sharing these I love share the spire and subscribed to them now.
Search like this: [email protected]
I don't think that works on kbin. If I search for a big community like "[email protected]" I find it immediately, but "[email protected]" gives no results.
The way to do it in kbin is to go to the magazine section specifically. The normal search doesn't find magazines I believe. Then search in the following format:
[email protected]. I use that as an example because I had to learn this very thing a few minutes ago.Ah!
And if you search for the original community url? For example: https://beehaw.org/c/science