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Does anyone want to take over the new [email protected] community to allow for more serious discussions?

This is in regards to the brand-new [email protected] community.

And by more serious discussions I mean e.g. the legality of the recent jury nullification issue, which I don't want to allow if I were a moderator in it.

If you say yes you will be granted the community "ownership" as the sole moderator. I've only been a mod myself on Lemmy for less than a day but we'll figure out how to transfer it to you. You can ofc always add new mods and change it however you like after that. The advantage here is chiefly that you get the community "name" AskUSA, whereupon I could later create e.g. a CasualUSA but you would have the privileges of that specific name, to match the style of e.g. AskUK or AskLemmy (or AskScience or AskMen or AskElectronics or AskAndroid etc. - there are so many here using that style:-).

I don't want to be involved in something that is going to constantly be depressing to me, though I do recognize the need for such and am offering the community "name" if someone else wants to pick up that mantle.

While if nobody says yes then I suppose I'll just keep it going in the more CasualUSA light-hearted style, until such time as someone does. Either way I'll offer to help grow it by posting and commenting to it regularly - unless you want me to stop b/c I tend to be really bad at guessing what people want to see (e.g. personally I love John Oliver and also got involved in the Reddit protests, so why people are downvoting sexy pics of JO on Lemmy of all places... I seriously have no clue).

The community also needs moderators to help in general - so even if you don't want to take it over, would you like to help moderate it if it were to remain a more casual, light-hearted community?

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  • Just a heads up, your community is not federated to my instance for whatever reason.

    • Nobody was subscribed, I just did

      • Hmm. I didn't know that was a thing but your posts (and one of OP's) did show up now. EDIT: Not all of them, and not comments

        That seems counter-intuitive. You need to know enough about a community to bring it in. I can maybe see a point when it comes to abandoning a community, though that also makes less sense if it only takes one subscriber for federation to still occur (maybe a bit more sense if subscribers need to be active users).

        • You are right of course. On the other hand, the developers are working slowly on other issues and do not seem to have made this one a priority. And Rust is reputedly an exceedingly difficult language to learn to program in, even for someone who already knows C++. I expect PieFed (Python) and Sublinks (if still active, Java) to quickly surpass it with features, though Lemmy definitely has the edge in terms of most effort put into it so far.

          On the other hand, we are still at version 0.19.7 - so definitely still a beta software rather than a fully functional one? Plus it's not meant for profit, so we make do with fewer features, and have only a very tiny set of developers working - those that can be supported by grants and donations.

          Plus the entire thinking about how things should work seems to keep changing? Like, the original federation model was not built around the idea that Lemmy.World would have ~80% of all Lemmy users on it - and yet on the other hand, moderation tools, especially across instances, suck absolute ass (reportedly), so the entire Fediverse is kinda really struggling right now, and niceties such as this simply don't get worked on until the more major foundational issues get laid down. Fortunately new communities don't get created every day:-).

        • You need to know enough about a community to bring it in.

          Which is why the size of an instance matters. You need people to subscribe to different communities to fetch the content

          That seems counter-intuitive.

          This prevents denial of service from unwanted communities

    • It's a common thing when new communities are made and propagated.

      First, it is there - at least I am able to see it at https://lemmy.cafe/c/[email protected]. Are you not able to access it with the following link: [email protected]? If not that would be more troubling.

      Second, all posts have just 1 upvote (the default) and most have no comments (except the one I made half an hour ago) - that seems due to a delay that ended sometime after the 1st subscriber joined it. As time goes on, new posts and new comments should appear there, though unless there is also a backlog issue on top of the initial delay, those old ones are likely a lost cause and will never ever reflect the full complement of comments & votes. But new ones will, like https://lemmy.cafe/post/10565961 with 3 comments in it.

      Let me know about the above link, and either way, thanks for raising the issue to make sure that it works on your instance. :-)

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