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Biden catered to moderates in 2020 and wouldn’t have won without them.

So you are wrong. Moderates are voting for democrats.
- Yeah, no shit, that's literally in my comment! Maybe try rereading it and getting back to me.
  
  There not getting votes from moderates now!
  
  This was your comment. How bout you proofread it.
  
  Oh my god, you're right! I should have said, "They're not gaining with moderates and, in fact, are losing moderate support in many crucial elections, especially when they weaken their message to try to be more appealing to them!" What an idiot I am for using concise language that anyone with half a brain would understand.
  
  Anyway, since I'm also a pedantic twat, I looked it up, and it turns out a lot of leftists did show up in 2020! Looks like your assertion that, "The left doesn’t show up to vote," is false as well. Looks like you got some proofreading to do! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  
  They lost moderates to Trump in 2024 for going too far left and the left didn’t show up to fill the gap. Punishing democrats for moving left.
  
  You think they went left? Are you drunk? Are you doing a bit? Did you forget the /s? If you legitimately think she went left, you're probably the only person on the planet that thinks so:
  
  New York Times: Harris to Court Moderates With a Onetime Right-Wing Provocateur
  
  Wall Street Journal: Kamala Harris, with Liz Cheney, Courts Moderates in Pennsylvania
  
  Politico: Harris is courting moderate Republicans.
  
  The AP: Trump targets hardcore partisans, Harris goes after moderates
  
  What, in God's name, makes you think this campaign was more left-leaning than 2020?
  
  Ms Harris supported a number of progressive tax programmes. She co-sponsored a bill with former presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders to expand social security for the elderly by increasing the tax rate on investments. As a presidential candidate in 2019, she supported a corporate tax rate of 35%, up from 21%. This was more aggressive than President Biden's proposal, which she also backed, to increase the rate to 28%. During her acceptance speech after being confirmed as the Democratic candidate, she said she would "pass a middle class tax cut that will benefit more than 100 million Americans". This refers to the restoration of the Child Tax Credit and the Earned Income Tax Credit. Restoring the expanded Child Tax Credit would give families with newborn children a $6,000 (£4,630) tax cut. A campaign official also told the BBC that the vice-president would continue to back President Biden's proposal to not raise taxes on Americans earning less than $400,000 (£310,000).
  
  Earlier in her career, Ms Harris supported expanding publicly-funded healthcare programmes that cover the elderly, youth with disabilities and poor. This included backing Medicare-for-All, a progressive policy that would make all healthcare publicly funded. Her campaign told the BBC that she would not push for a single-payer system if elected to the White House. During her vice-presidency, the White House has had health care successes. It reduced prescription drug costs, capped insulin prices at $35, allowed Medicare to negotiate drug prices and capped out-of-pocket expenses for Medicare drug coverage. On the campaign trail, she has said that she wants to erase billions of dollars in medical debt for Americans and would work with states on the issue.
  
  As a prosecutor, Ms Harris defended California's climate laws and sued oil companies for environmental damage. She also called for climate change policies via a "Green New Deal" during her 2020 presidential campaign - some of which came to fruition under the current administration.
  
  A) 3 random, disconnected positions are not a lurch to the left, they're just...3 random policies.
  
  B) She abandoned her Medicare for All position before the end of her 2020 run for something less progressive.
  
  C) None of these happened after 2020, how is any of it evidence that they went too far left in 2024?
  
  Anyway, I'm gonna stop replying now. It's a waste of my time, and I'm starting to feel like I'm punching down.
  
  A) they are policies to the left of center. Saying they are random policies doesn’t even make sense.
  
  B) something less progressive but still left of center. Meaning a move to the left.
  
  C) the way time works, things have to happen before 2024 for them to exist in 2024. No one is saying “too far left”. That’s a straw man you are try to create.
  
  Your opinion of how left Kamala was doesn’t matter.
  
  It’s the voters opinions that matters. Republican propaganda convinced voters that Kamala is a radical leftists.
  
  I agree that you should stop replying based on your feelings. Join reality instead.

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