[DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] Agatha All Along - S01E09 - Discussion
[DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] Agatha All Along - S01E09 - Discussion
- Title: “Maiden Mother Crone”
- Release Date: October 30, 2024
- Discussion Hub
The whole "witches road" being a scam by Agatha feels on-brand, but on a meta level I'm a bit sad that they took a concept from the comics and turned it into that.
I like how Billy realized "I'm a murderer", and Agatha goes "no you're not, I would have killed all of them in my basement, you even saved Jen".
Oh, and a ghost going "are you ignoring me?" is somehow very funny to me ngl
Last episode where Billy is wondering if he's killing "Tommy" in order to save Tommy was brilliant (and honestly still unresolved). Agatha taking ownership still feels like a lie. Sure you didn't kill them because I was going to first... But effectively... Yeah, he did. It's similar to Wanda not meaning to enslave Westview, but she did.
IDK, I'm leaning towards he didn't
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They all went there because they wanted to (except Mrs. Hart). And they all got what they went there for.
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Was The Witches Road "Real"? Like how does Billy's powers work? If Wanda created Billy and Billy is "Real" and exists independent of Wanda then maybe the road was "Real". If Billy isn't real, then technically Wanda killed everyone lol
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I enjoyed it
So.. at the start of this episode I was like "oh god, please don't make this a flashback episode". And then the flashbacks kept going for over 20 minutes. Once again the Marvel writers wrote themselves into a corner by deciding "we need to show this, but it doesn't fit anywhere so we'll cram it into the last episode". Works better than in other shows but still not ideal. The whole episode basically feels like a tag to the finale that was episode 8.
I hear what you're saying. I almost wonder if the MCU needs more "one shots" or "Tales of the Jedi/Sith" to just throw fun little moments into canon.
(Although really just throwing them on the end of a show is fine.)
I wish we got more of Agatha and Rio’s relationship and Nicky’s death. Is Agatha just unable to face him because she used his song to kill untold amount of witches? Is the only way that Rio hurt Agatha is that she took Nicky? Her job? I just feel like I was expecting a better story there. Other than that I thought it was fantastic. It felt like a short episode but it wasn’t.
The implication I got was that Agatha was giving Rio bodies in a sort of unspoken deal to keep Nicky alive--hence her coming and taking him when Nicky backed out. Going a step further, maybe Rio knew that Nicky was no longer going to go along with the plan after this one time that he refused, so he no longer served her needs.
The idea there would be that Agatha can't face him because of the deal she made him an unwitting party to. Based on his nature and how Agatha described him, it seems like if he had known why they were out killing witches constantly (trading their entire lives for an extension of his own), he would not approve.
As long as there's still a chance this loops around to Agatha becoming Franklin Reed's nanny, anything is fine. We got the grey hair at least, that's one step!
I'm looking forward to ghost Agatha just adding snide remarks to... well everything.
That was all pretty good, except I don't buy that excuse that Agatha made up to keep herself around.
She's a known liar and a murderer.
Teen should have banished her.
I mean, for what it's worth, she is still seemingly lying to Billy about what happened to her son, in that she's still letting him think she sacrificed him for the Darkhold
Though it seems weird that she would choose to lie about that when the truth would have worked just as well. But it could have just been instinct considering she's been lying and manipulating people for a few hundred years.
The Witches Road? It was Agatha All Along!
Kind of a bummer they "killed" her off, hopefully we see a continuation of this story sooner than later.
I mean, she is a ghost, which is accurate to how she has been portrayed in the comics at a few times in 1985 and 2015