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They want to use the power of government to reduce the harms of capitalism, via minimum wages, social safety nets, child tax credit, subsidizing more environmentally friendly energy production and electric cars.
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No they don't, lol
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That isn't "center-left," that's center-right.
No they are not as far left as you and the people you talk to online, I didn't say that. You are allowed to want different policies. You're just incorrect to call them right wing.
Leftism starts at anti-Capitalism.
Ok I don't expect you to see it but this is exactly why I said it's a lie that online lefties tell themselves. Globally, in real life politics, yes you absolutely can be center-left without demanding the overthrow of Capitalism.
What do you think leftism even is? An arbitrary vibe? Globally, Marxism-Leninism guides one of the most populous countries in the planet.
Being left of center is not solely defined by being Marxist, and one country, even if it actually was Marxist and not 3 Capitalisms in a trenchcoat, would not define the standard of what constitutes "left" in the world.
I'm not saying Marxism isn't Left. I'm saying it's not literally the only thing that IS Left.
Being left of center is not solely defined by being Marxist, and one country, even if it actually was Marxist and not 3 Capitalisms in a trenchcoat, would not define the standard of what constitutes "left" in the world.
Left of center is anticapitalist, be it Anarchist, Syndicalist, or Marxist. I also think it's funny when you out yourself as having no clue what Marxism even is if you think the PRC is "3 Capitalisms in a trenchcoat," read Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism.
I'm not saying Marxism isn't Left. I'm saying it's not literally the only thing that IS Left.
Neither did I. I just also said Liberalism isn't left.
The metric you are using is not the metric the actual real world uses for center left. You are bringing your internet lefty definitions and declaring that I'm wrong to say only internet lefties would use them. Major parties in the middle of the political spectrum are not typically pushing for the overthrow of Capitalism.
I am using the metrics the actual real world uses, not wherever you live's Overton Window.
You just aren't, but I don't know where the "no U" is going to get us.
Explain.
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