Same for me, except it's regular work hours. When the shop opens at 6, 5:30 is the absolute latest I can push sleep lol
Recently I've been experimenting with staying up till 11 (re, watching a show) and it hasn't been going well. I think I really do need that magic 8 hours
It’s a mess. But then so is my life, kind of. For things like this, once you’ve ruled out potential medical issues, there’s often some other underlying cause in your life. I’m sure my messy life situation is one for me
Mine IS medical. Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder.
Turns out an eye sensor - which registers the sunrise and sends the notification to the brain - has a factory defect, and as a result my mind and body never knows what time it is, stays awake and gets sleepy whenever it feels like it.
mine's quite bad at the moment due to outside causes, but after years of insomnia for the past year i've actually got it working well, 11pm-8am!! What helped me was a psychiatrist and sleeping pills to get the schedule roughly in place, paired with really strict sleep hygiene (no screens, etc) and trying to get enough free time in the day to have fun and exercise.
honestly more than sleep hygiene, this probably made the biggest difference for me. if i don't have fun, my brain wouldn't shut off to sleep; and if i don't exercise at all i just don't get tired. you can try all the scheduling in the world, trying to sleep when neither brain nor body wants to is just pointless.
I sleep usually from 7 to 8 hours. I aim for 8-9 but sometimes stay up to watch programs live and such. I used to always have trouble sleeping or getting back to sleep... As an anxious person I often self medicated with alcohol. Which as we know makes sleep terrible. Especially on the daily.
And we'll, yeah it's probably cliche at this point but I never have been more relaxed, slept better, fall asleep faster, than when I quit booze. And EVEN BETTER, on all accounts when I started smoking weed in the evenings. If it's legal where you are, I highly suggest some edibles at least, or some CBD of you're averse to thc. It really does wonders.
Was just about to suggest this. I've got insomnia and cannabis in the correct dosage has been the most effective with the least negative side effects for me personally.
I have two young kids, so it’s a little skewed to keep them functioning. I’ve always been an early top bed person, but as I’ve gotten older, my wake-up’s have gotten consistently earlier.
The problem I have nowadays is staying asleep. A life in the military has made it easy to get up even when I’m exhausted, but tough to settle down and go back to sleep. I find that consistent exercise is critical to my sleep schedule. As long as I exercise, I can stay asleep through the night. If my workout schedule gets off, I have a lot of 0400 wakeups.
This is actually really helpful. I have frequent nighttime awakenings, and it's getting so bad that I want to sleep a lot during the day. Maybe I'll give exercise a go, I haven't tried it as a solution for insomnia yet.
When I'm stressed I can have really bad middle-of-night insomnia. A few months ago it was terrible. I came across an article about some guy who said to only go to bed when tired and to get up at the same time every morning no matter what. It was hellish while I did it, but after a week or so it started to work. Then after about two weeks, I set a bedtime schedule for myself while still keeping the same wake-up time. Since then, if I do wake in the middle of the night, I treat it like meditation (with the idea that meditation counts as rest) and just lay there focusing on my breathing. I haven't had a three-hour awake time since, and usually it's not more than 20-30 minutes.
I struggle a lot with sleep schedule and end up tending towards being nocturnal lol. I end up just staying up all night/day to "reset" it and go to sleep at a regular hour.
the important thing is to just try to make sure you go to sleep at the same time each night (once it's fixed).
I work night shift, and switch to day life when I'm off shift. My schedule is generally, "oh, I'm tired, better go to bed". I don't think jet lag is going to be an issue for me any more though!
I try to get 7.5h of sleep in practice - but in reality. Weeknights are usually 2am - 8:30am (not enough). So then on Saturday I naturally sleep 10 or 11 hours straight to catch up to the lost Z's throughout the week. As a night-owl, but fully employed and accountable at work, it's a difficult game to play - And I'm sure I will pay for it as I get older.
I'm exactly the same as you, asleep around 1:30-2am and up by 8:30. Then weekends I go to sleep later (around 3 am) but sleep in until 11-noon. I'm just thankful to be fully remote for work or else I'd definitely have to change my sleep schedule (probably should anyways).
I do around 10:30 to 5:30, which would be okay, except I wake up a lot throughout the night, almost always starting between 2:30 and 3:00. This past week, my first wake-up has been even earlier, around 1:30.
I think mine is fine, i average 6 hours, sometimes more, sometimes less, not even alarm based since i'm having some off time at the moment, it's just what i feel comfortable with. though when i start my new job i might tighten it a little.
It's been awful lately. I generally only have insomnia when I have irl problems so I'm currently trying to sort those out as best as I can and better sleep should follow suit.
As I've gotten older I've tried to even out my sleep schedule - it used to be much worse than it is now. That said, it's pretty rare for me to get more than 6 hours of sleep, and typically that's enough.
Most nights I go to bed between 11 and 12, and I get up between 5:30 and 6:30 weekdays. Weekends I'll sleep till around 7 but never later than 8.
Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder with Non-24, and recently having bouts of insomnia, when before I could sleep at odd schedules with no problem. Not a pretty sight.
It's been going on since I was a kid, back in those days I had books, magazines and the radio to keep me company late at night when everyone else was asleep.
Nowadays, as my wife and kids sleep, I have a cozy space to either lounge or do stretches/yoga/meditation, while there's my cats to keep me company, along with internet radio and a tablet when sitting, for years it's been about scrolling and writing on Reddit, or writing to friends via Signal, I have a couple of friends with whom I write long strings of texts, Twitter-style, about whatever's on my mind at the moment, usually about something cool I read or saw... usually on Reddit.
Yesterday, one of my friends sent me a YouTube link, wanted to turn me on to the show Letterkenny, gotta say I did burst out laughing out loud a few times, now I gotta check it out. Very niche rural Canadian humor.
Notice I didn't say "television" anywhere, except for when friends send me something. I almost never turn on the Roku when I can't sleep. But when I do, it'll be astronomy, science, art of history documentaries (it is INCREDIBLE what's out there on YouTube), a British quiz game show called Richard Osman's House Of Games, or travel shows from Japanese network NHK World - they visit a lot of small old towns, or just cruise regions by train.
Television with a light touch, no drama, tension or violence.
I've found that I need 4 things to wake up consistently
Wake up early, it helps if you're forced to, work meetings, class, meet up, whatever you need
No naps, and getting up at the same time consistently
Manage my stress, a combination of working out consistently and managing work stress
Good sleep hygiene, if I'm exhausted but hit a good part in a book I'll stay up. So it's boring books, blue light blocking on devices, and grey scale and low brightness on my phone
Honestly having a kid and a job helped a bunch. Ultimately you'll get up if you need to.
My ADHD messes my sleep schedule big time, like needing one hour minimum since I go to bed to get asleep, sleeping for 4 or 5 hours, and not being tired at all.
That's why I'm taking melatonin pills (doctor recommendation). Since then, I'm sleeping like a neurotypical.